Drop-in Tv - Shawn Denny

[MikeCottTrials]

you bunch of cocks. he's a f**king good rider, just more of a streety style, likes experimenting a bit more. i'v never seen him come accross as a shakey or nervous rider, i just think that it could come accross like that because he looks (and sounds) so young . anyway, he's better than 99% of the people bitching about him.

errr and how longs he bin riding you say. anyone could be better than him in the time hes been riding

[Greetings]

Denny is no ryan leech lets get that straight first.

Isn't that pretty obvious?

[jay119]

This is all getting a bit much isn't it? If you don't like it, don't watch it, simple as that. To say he is misrepresenting trials is crap because, to be fair, I don't know anyone apart from riders who watch the show, and they know the extent of trials, And even if the general public did sit and watch it, I truly don't think they'd be able to tell the difference between Denny and someone like Leech, lets face it, if you don't do a sport as relatively unkown as trials, you don't really have an idea of whats good or not, in my opinion.

I also think that Denny is a bit of a fish out of water, tackling difficult natural terrain when he is clearly a street rider. PLus he is entertaining to watch in general, seems like a fun guy, which counts for alot on a show like Drop-In that has alot of off-bike footage.

So rather than get pointlessly angry about something that dosen't really matter, just don't watch it and go ride your bike!

[munkee]

Isn't that pretty obvious?

Its just you put denny and leech together... as if they represent trials in the same way. leech has skills.. denny has no skills..

So rather than get pointlessly angry about something that dosen't really matter, just don't watch it and go ride your bike!

Oh dear god if i have to listen to someone say go ride your bike one more time on this f**king forum ill go insane. Its like saying why are you even commenting saying go ride your bike.. surely you should go ride your bike and not get stressed over everyone elses opinions?. Pointlessly angry is me getting annoyed at people saying "just dont watch it" .. as if anyone had a f**king clue about the guy until they "watched it". Its not like were all bloody psychic and can see in to the future. You had to have watched it once to know he was shit...and i havent watched him since. But from the other replies he hasnt improved in the 8 years he's been riding.

Edited July 24, 2006 by Spacemunkee

[Sameer]

Ah, yes, that'd be why on the "big" video sites when trials clips are put up on there people love them, and how people stop and watch trials riders, how people try talking to people out riding and ask them what they're doing, and so on?

Yeah that's fair enough, the actual point I was trying to make was the latter half of the sentence you split - when a complete neutral is watching a show predominantly showing guys jumping off cliff edges, a guy leaping from a pebble to a tree stump probably won't make them rub their penis as much. But that's just my opinion from experience.

Obviously seeing nothing but trials will make people gasp, of course, because that's all they can see and it is indeed a spectacle. But again, IMO on a show like Drop In with multi-disciplines... trials probably doesn't have the same effect.

And back to Shawn, again - he's the only trials rider and probably doesn't wanna go on a sweet roadtrip only to have to session on his own somewhere while everyone else is partying up (/down... cliffs...) and that's probably why the producers chose a more general rider as opposed to, say, a UCI strictly trials guy. Which is why he isn't as awe-inspiring a rider as most of you are complaining about, because he's more of a jack-of-all-trades, let's call it.

edit: and Spacemunkee, I can't believe you're actually getting worked up in this thread. End of the day, you're getting trials on tv for free (well... after paying for Sky or what have you), which is - as we all know - hard to come by. Until you get a TV contract to make a series and ride on it, just accept what's been handed to you on a plate. Simple as, really.

Edited July 24, 2006 by Sameer

[Mark W]

At the risk of sounding arguementative, people find stuff like rail gaps really impressive, so it may be a useful thing to put in there. The balance and rail gap lines that Ryan Leech used to do on whatever show he featured on on Extreme seemed popular anyway. They can't see the technical lines and think "ooh, aah", but they seem to realise how hard rail gaps and stuff are, and maybe even think they're harder than they are? People seem to be mad impressed by backhops at least anyway... But yeah, I get what you mean

[Greetings]

Its just you put denny and leech together... as if they represent trials in the same way. leech has skills.. denny has no skills..

Only to point out that both ride a similar way, Leech obviously being very much better. As you don't appreciate Denny, I am just giving you an example of a rider which I am sure you appreciate to prove my point

[boon racoon]

bitching about who's better than who aside...

you ride for a popular team

with people who you know very well and ride with all the time in your country

highly jump/dh/freeride orientated

you ride some of this stuff too but also trials

they do a roadtrip which happens to be set as an acessible tv series about mountain biking in general

they invite you

you say yes?

fair play to the man

if you invited hermance up to ride..would he come? would he f**k. and he'd have to spend all of the trip up in the woods/trails/cliffs watching everyone else on his bike which to most people doesn't even look like an mtb.

[Sameer]

Precisely.

And just to add, I watched a Drop-In episode that was on about an hour or so ago... he's actually well good?! Riding on a Koxx and doing all sorts of awesome stuff. Spacemunkee, you may need to revise your opinion.

x

[munkee]

Precisely.

And just to add, I watched a Drop-In episode that was on about an hour or so ago... he's actually well good?! Riding on a Koxx and doing all sorts of awesome stuff. Spacemunkee, you may need to revise your opinion.

x

Im fine thanks. He rides a 03 koxx.. woopty.. hes still 3 years behind us all.

[MikeCottTrials]

sure denny does technical stuff that may seem good to some wierd trials riders but its hardly impressive to watch and as far as saying top trials riders wouldnt go i bet theres tons of riders that would love to go

[Dr. Nick Riviera]

Im fine thanks. He rides a 03 koxx.. woopty.. hes still 3 years behind us all.

was filmed in early 05, so nothing majorly behind.

and you really do need to get off your high horse, you're starting to get a bit tedious

[Si-man]

He has his opinion which he is obviously sticking to, so if you cant live with it then click the "ignore user" button

[Dr. Nick Riviera]

He has his opinion which he is obviously sticking to, so if you cant live with it then click the "ignore user" button

that sounded far too patronising.

but yeah. it's a good button

[Si-man]

well if i knew what it meant I would give you an answer but i dont lol.

Easiest way to go about it though...

[munkee]

Jesus christ sorry if i jabbed a knife in to the die hard denny fans hearts in this thread. My opinion its simple, its not as if im the only person with this opinion either there are plenty of others who have said the same as me. So.. ".. go ride your bikes" or whatever it is were usually told to do.

Edited July 24, 2006 by Spacemunkee

[mods]

But he is a pile of wank and what i said is damn feckin fact

pile of wank?.. lol u crack me up chris with ur crazy comments, it's seems everyones ganging up on you because you have a negative opinions.

why can't people say

' i don't agree with you because...'

And the fact it was filmed in 05.. doesn't mean that his riding style is 05.....

[Euro Braker]

I dont think he is all that on a trials bike but the hair. Honestly it has grown on me while watching but its a bit to the wild at the least

[jay119]

Pointlessly angry is me getting annoyed at people saying "just dont watch it" .. as if anyone had a f**king clue about the guy until they "watched it". Its not like were all bloody psychic and can see in to the future. You had to have watched it once to know he was shit...and i havent watched him since. But from the other replies he hasnt improved in the 8 years he's been riding.

You know what I mean so don't act stupid, Its obvious you've watched it once. The solution to your problem with Denny, which is slightly unfounded as you've only watched it once and therefore can't have a very comprehensive idea of him as a rider, is don't watch it. Theres no need to come onto this forum and go over the top with offensive comments about a rider that you apparently have only watched about 2 or 3 minutes of. It makes you seem an unreasonable, angry person who has nothing better to do. Thats why you should go and ride.

[trialsalot]

surprise surprise another bitchy thread .at least its staying in one place.denny may not be great but he is doing his thing and isnt that we all do.its not about who got on what show or what bike he rides.put me on an apollo an i'll try my best to make it dance because i enjoy trials riding just as much as the next guy.

being picked for a show like that isnt just about how good you ride but the attitude towards other people/riders and how they portray themselves within the sport.the riding helps a tad though!!

i think there is nothing wrong with his riding,the bike he rides or the guy himself.

[munkee]

You know what I mean so don't act stupid, Its obvious you've watched it once. The solution to your problem with Denny, which is slightly unfounded as you've only watched it once and therefore can't have a very comprehensive idea of him as a rider, is don't watch it. Theres no need to come onto this forum and go over the top with offensive comments about a rider that you apparently have only watched about 2 or 3 minutes of. It makes you seem an unreasonable, angry person who has nothing better to do. Thats why you should go and ride.

I watched him once then said in my head.. well that was a bag of wank. So i didnt watch it again. You're now telling me not to watch it even though i have already been through this and told you i watched it the once purely because .. yeap i didnt like it. Who said i have watched 2 or 3 minutes of him? dont come along and try to put forward false accusations such as that. It could have been a 3 hours stint of pure denny for all you know, which gave me major ball ache and i realised his riding wasnt for me. Just leave it alone now please i think everyman and his dog knows i dont like him now. No need to keep digging up what i've said so i have to reply in defence at your offensive blurb.

[Mark W]

if you invited hermance up to ride..would he come? would he f**k. and he'd have to spend all of the trip up in the woods/trails/cliffs watching everyone else on his bike which to most people doesn't even look like an mtb.

To be fair, to the average person a Koxx Levelboss doesn't look all that different to a Levelboss XTP V-Racing, so it's not really the point. The majority of people out there won't be riding 12" travel massive full sus rigs, yet they still realise that for that sorta stuff you need a specialised bike. People say they look like motocross bikes and stuff like "Shouldn't you have an engine with that?" (Two quotes I heard when riding with a guy on a freeride style bike - Sintesi Bazooka to be precise), in the same way people say "Where's your seat" to me on the odd ocassion.

Either way, Denny's got where he is today not by being shit and not riding at all. He works hard, he puts his name out there, he gets opportunities. The option to work hard at what they love doing is open to anyone, so if someone's chosen to do it there's no need to have a go at them for having done what many other people wish they could do.

[Mr_Pitbull]

Remember V-Dub and that other Mike Guy, V-Dub was on the Red Ellsworth and Mike on the Black Ellsworth in Third and Double Down. Those guys got me in intro Trials, but watching back there some Sketchy Mother f**ks now.

And if i hear the Word "super" on Drop in also Put into this sentence "yeh man the trails were super fun with some narly hucks was cool" i will smash my TV.

Edited July 25, 2006 by Mr_Pitbull

[DangerousDave]

Ok,

The show isn't made for trials riders, its not a show about trials, its not trying to appeal to trials riders.

Do you know how hard its been for drop-in to produce a show that would get picked up networks around the world? No network exec is going to say "hey the 15 trials riders of the world are mad that shawn isn't a world champion so we should give him the boot and put a euro on there who can't speak english and won't bring any personality to the show but will do lines that other trials riders will say are cool."

This is a free ride show. they are creating a show that appeals to their target market, Shawn is a great guy and one of the most popular riders on the show. And who thinks he is popular? The freeriders!! also known as the people who actually matter to the producers of the show.

If you want to produce a trials show, then go find a network who will pick it up. I'm sure that will work and then you can all say how wonderful it is.

is shawn the ultimate trials rider? no. But for the most part free riders don't care. they want to see more of the street style riding and they don't want someone who is boring.

Try and think to yourself, hey there is a show on tv that airs in multiple countries that features something other than road riding and thats a step in the right direction.

[nafan]

Well everyone knows that the whole point of trials, at the end of the day is to enjoy yourself, and that's what he does - I just think he has a cool style...

Nathan