onzatprodude Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 right, ive got a problem and it involves a profile hub a ronnie rim and some spokes and nipples. so i ned help to build it all up as i cant get it provessionally done till the end of next weekend . so i need a real good website to help a first timer. needs to have spoke patters the order and everything as i seriously dont have a clue.i would also like all your tips for wheel building? what to watch out for ect?is there anything that can go seriously wrong like which will cost alot in damage?how long should i be expecting to spend building the wheel?thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Geary Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwalker Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 GSport - Fecking amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatprodude Posted July 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 that gs sport looks good except the spokes were bent lolis it really hard to do?how long will it take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medwaytrials Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Seriously just copy another wheel, you will soon get the hang of it. Its all the the truing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwalker Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 If you read it all through it says about how he's jus bent the spokes over to stop them from catching when doing grinds, its easy to copy that wheel guide, just stick to every single picture and guide and you will have no problems. Oh and you have to cross the spokes so that they are tighter, any problems just PM me or add me to msn. Seriously just copy another wheel, you will soon get the hang of it. Its all the the truing. Nah dont listen to him Get with the proper way to wheel build.Its really easy if you just coppy that guide, and if you do it right you dont even need to true the wheel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Learning to do it the proper way is about 94.2% better than copying a wheel. It'll be easier to do in the long run, it'll be easier learning to do different lacing patterns, and your wheelbuilds will be better if you actually know what you're doing. You're still going to have to lace up 28/32/36/48 spokes or whatever, so you might as well do 'em right. The G-Sport one's pretty good, just remember to only do it 3X and underlace the further out spoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatprodude Posted July 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 nice one mate you been a star you will probs be getting a pm tomorro saying i cant do it lol but hey i got to give it a shot or else i wont be riding for more than a week thanks alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Send it to me and i'll do it for you if you want? £10 plus postage back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 It's easy to do once you get the lacing right.Truing it is the hard part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatprodude Posted July 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 just remember to only do it 3X and underlace the further out spoke i new there would be someone who had to be clever and confuse me lol explain please :$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Truing's piss. Just tighten it on the side you want it to move to. Not hard If you do lube up the spoke nipples, de-stress the wheel from time to time, and do them up the same amount they usually turn out pretty hunky dory anyway EDIT: All I meant about that was that in that guide, George does it so he's building a 4X wheel (so the spoke crosses over/under 4 spokes), whereas you're doing it 3X. He threads the spoke over the first two, then under the third, then over the fourth, whereas you do over the first, over the second and under the third.The main thing to remember with wheelbuilding is that looking at a guide's good, but if you've got a wheel in your hands that you're building it makes it a load easier when you can just match the pictures. But yeah, seriously, learn how to do it then you can rinse your friends for a fiver/tenner for building their wheels for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatprodude Posted July 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Send it to me and i'll do it for you if you want? £10 plus postage backno its ok mate as im wanting a wheel for 2mora night. hopefully thanks for the offer though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Ok, truing's not hard, just frustrating.Especially when you're a 'tard like me, and round off the nipples. You sure the spoeks are the right length? And you wanna build 4X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 f**k 4x wheels 3x is plenty enough for a trials wheel, 'specially if it's 36h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Wouldn't 4X be stronger though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatprodude Posted July 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 yer spokes are right length and i just gunna do it like the one on the gs sport website... 3x? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwalker Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 I thought it depended on the legnth of the spokes weather you could do a X ammount of crosses? If you use that wheel build you twist the hub with all the spoke heads facing down in the hub, then put the opposite lot in and then jus find a place where they fit in the rim, worked fine for me! one of the strongest builds ive done. Infact im concidering taking appart my wheels so i can do it in the sameway, its alot easier to get tighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Wouldn't 4X be stronger though? If you were going to be doing a load of moves that put a f**king huge amount of lateral stress on the wheels (e.g. most spinning moves in BMX) then yes, perhaps 4x would be an idea. However, for trials, 3x is perfectly strong enough and lighter (not to mention easier to build ). yer spokes are right length and i just gunna do it like the one on the gs sport website... 3x? 3x, yeah. You'll have to do one or the other anyway 'cos of the spoke lengths you've got. Where did you get them from? If it's someone like Tartybikes they generally say on a bit of paper with the spokes what they're for (e.g. 3x or whatever).You'll probably take around an hour and a half to two hours on yoru first wheel, by the way. It'll get quicker after that when you can just do it off the top of your head though. I built a 32H, 3x wheel in about half an hour which was the last wheel I built. So much nicer are doing my deep, box-sectioned BMX rim to a BMX hub, 48H, 4x \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Gay.It took me ages to get my 4X right. Cheers Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzatprodude Posted July 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 so you know the part were he says put a spoke in every forth hole for 4x spoke do i put it in every 3rd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 1 spoke, leave 3 holes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 so you know the part were he says put a spoke in every forth hole for 4x spoke do i put it in every 3rd? No. 1 spoke, leave 3 holes Yes.You've got to leave the 3 spoke gap 'cos you've got 3 spokes to put in those holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 I'm gonna do a wheel building guide one day................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 George French and Sheldon Brown have their shit dialled, and people still don't understand their's. Unless by "Wheel building guide" you mean a "Show people at their own homes how to build a wheel", you're as f**ked as they are I think if people just didn't think there was this mystic aura around wheels and spokes it'd be fine. It's pretty hard to really f**k up a wheel (to do anything more than a buckle just using a spoke key would be some pretty good going), and wheelbuilding's really straight forward, but it's just that there's this whole "It's a Dark Art" thing going on. Wheels are fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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