t33zr Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 (edited) How is the KMC light wheight chain?Does it snap more easy than the KMC cool chain ?Does it last as long as KMC cool chain?? Edited July 11, 2006 by t33zr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 They snap a load more easily, judging from BMXers. They also stretch really easily.Having chalked up Sheared/Snapped KMC Kool #5 yesterday, I'm thinking that less material = bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 lightweight chains = I would never trust such a chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 lightweight chains = I would never trust such a chain.I agree, it's a no brainer! Just stick a decent heavy duty chain on and quit trying to save such a stupidly minute amount of weight at the expense of the flesh on your face when your poncy lightweight chain snaps and launches you nose first into the concrete!!!Davey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil white Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 you should try the kmc z510hx, it is a strong lightweight chain which retains the normal link style, kool chains were never kind to my rear sprocket so i opted for this and it did the job just as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 (edited) you should try the kmc z510hx, it is a strong lightweight chain which retains the normal link style, kool chains were never kind to my rear sprocket so i opted for this and it did the job just as well!Word! That's the chain I've been running for years... It's cheap and reliable! I replace the chain every three months though. Safety first Edited July 11, 2006 by Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 You cant really say its reliable if you replace it ever 3 months. I had a KHE for 9months, and only replaced it because it was rusted to feck. Just stick with the standard Kool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 (edited) I can. I read a lot on bmx forums and the 510 is a very popular chain there. Most of the people recommend it and mention it as one of the first, when someone's asking "what chain is the best..." and so on Plus I really feel that I can trust this chain. That's almost as important as the specs of a chain (at least for me). E.g. I can't trust a kool chain... don't know why... maybe because you read more about snapped kools than about 510s... at least in trials forums. Edited July 11, 2006 by Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 I can't trust a kool chain... don't know why... maybe because you read more about snapped kools than about 510s... at least in trials forums.That's becuase sooo many people use them. And no one uses 150's, whatever they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 That's becuase sooo many people use them. And no one uses 150's, whatever they are.510 = KMC Z510HX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Roach Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Which are the most reliable and rust proof chains for a mod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 The KMC 510HX chains are pretty good, and they don't rust all that easily.Theoretically, KHE Collapse Pro chains can take a higher load before breaking and aren't heavy at all, so they should be the ideal choice, but they develop stiff-links incredibly easily, the rollers crack, and they rust if you look at them...Your best bet's probably just to stick with Kools, 510HXs, or maybe go for some uber chain from Wipperman or Rohloff if you're loaded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 tank chain oh, wait - you wanted light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Roach Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 tank chain oh, wait - you wanted lightNo the weight isn't a problem if it is a safer chain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 (edited) I used to ride a KMC Kool on my bmx but never thought much of it. That was on my bmx. It was a while ago and has been through 3 people. It's cheap as well. Around 7 quid. Plus every one else runs one. Must say something...?I ran a Shadow chain for a few months on the bmx and it just fell apart. Good idea but the pins sucked. Plus I found a few people who snapped them. But alot of bmxers don't know what chain tension is and run the chain so it creaks. The KMC Collapse. Real good chain. I found no problems with it so far and thought it was worth the money. (that was on the bmx) I haven't heard anything about these chains as such yet really. But not many people run them so maybe thats why.The one that is on the trials bike at the moment is a Standard Industries heat treated. Supposedly stronger than the fat moto chains as its heat treated. 25 quid but a very good investment. I love this chain and reccommend it. American made as well.I've never ran a Loophole but their products are good. So one of those isn't a bad choice either. 15 quid with free postage direct from their site. I got a Ti axle from them not so long ago it came real quick. 3 days I think it was. Edited July 15, 2006 by eskimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Yeah, Loophole and Standard chains are pretty damn good. The V2 Shadow chains are a huge improvement too; the pins and plates are redesigned so they're a lot better.I used a KHE Collapse on my BMX and still on my trials bike, but I'm not overly fond of them. They rust really easily, the rollers crack pretty easily, they develop stiff-links all on their own, and they just don't seem particularly high quality. They're theoretically stronger than Kools though, which is largely the reason I'm running one now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Pitbull Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 KMC kool chains scare the shit outer me, due to snapping so many.......im currently running a KHE, but like Mark said its strengthy but bad quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 But Biff... Your a beast... You can't say shit .Same ol' KMC Kool, 14 months old nearly . Not snapped once, touch wood .Wooooo.Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 My first Kool lasted about a year and a bit, then the next one a couple of months off that, and the next a couple of months off that. They're good chains, I know, but I just don't really trust them. At least I won't until the scars heal from when I snapped the latest one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe b Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 To be honest, i can't really see what the point is in a light-weight KMC Kool . People buy and use KMC Kool chains, purely because they are strong. And, regarding the thin KMC Kool chain, they are on the market for people using thinly spaced cassettes that want a strong chain!So, again, i can't see the point...Cheers,Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 BMX racing is the point, I believe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 im currently running a KHE, but like Mark said its strengthy but bad quality.KHE are German though. I thought there stuff was pretty well precise. Seemed like it to me. My KHE bmx cranks are well fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Cranks are a different story though, in that you've got a minimum of two bolts holding it all tight and nice (unless they're Odyssey Wombolts, but your's aren't, so it still stands ), whereas a chain they've had manufactured for them in some random Taiwanese or Chinese factory is a different story. It's just not a great quality chain, pretty much. It being German doesn't mean the design's gonna be better at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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