bob87 Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Ever since i saw Kris Leeson riding his bike at the Birmingham bike show, I've always wanted one.I was just going to buy one of their standard build frames but now that i have read their website i'm intrested in getting a custom build.Does anybody know if Clive Leeson would build me a frame with a 12mm through axel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 phone clive and ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob87 Posted July 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 phone clive and ask.Yeah i will. Was just wondering if anybody has had it done before, or has enquired about getting one made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Your best bet as has been said is to phone up clive and ask him personally. He may not want to do it due to his 360 dropout design. But its worth a phonecall to see. Out of interest why exactly do you want a 12mm bolt through axle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob87 Posted July 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 He may not want to do it due to his 360 dropout design. Out of interest why exactly do you want a 12mm bolt through axle?Yes, the 360 dropout design is superb. Probably the most original design on a frame that i've seen.Some of my friends ride downhill bikes with 12mm through axles on the rear. They've said that the strength and stiffness you get from this is unheard of from a standard 10mm quick release hub.I was going to get either a Hadey or a Chris King as both these companies have had these types of hubs tried and tested on the downhill circuit.I'll still buy a Leeson frame, i was just trying to be inventive and original when it comes to getting a custom built frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 He will make whatever you want pretty much, its a bespoke frame.But dont email him, phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob87 Posted July 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 He will make whatever you want pretty much, its a bespoke frame.But dont email him, phone I hope so, not much of the frame has to be changed to accomadate this type of axle. The only pboblem i can see with building the frame is that it will be quite hard to work out the angle to run the chainstays at. The axle is actualy 15mm wider than a standard hub so there might be difficulty there.I'll phone him anyway and see what he says.Has anybody had this done to trials frame before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 12mm bolt through is on DH bikes mind muckaHow ever Cliver did do this on the Chris King HD axle on the 24'' thing he built for his son, he spoke to me lots about.he will do what ever he can do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob87 Posted July 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 12mm bolt through is on DH bikes mind muckaHow ever Cliver did do this on the Chris King HD axle on the 24'' thing he built for his son, he spoke to me lots about.Does his son still use this frame? Were there any problems with the frame?This is good news, maybe i might be able to get this built after all.Are you in direct contact with Clive himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heatsink Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Don't some riders use Surly hubs with bolt through axles for trials, combined with free-wheels. Should be decent I would have thought if you're not wanting to remove your wheel very frequently. Not just the preserve of DH riders!http://www.brixtoncycles.co.uk/singlespeed_stuff.html^ HubsDoes his son still use this frame? Were there any problems with the frame?This is good news, maybe i might be able to get this built after all.Are you in direct contact with Clive himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob87 Posted July 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Don't some riders use Surly hubs with bolt through axles for trials, combined with free-wheels. http://www.brixtoncycles.co.uk/singlespeed_stuff.htmlChecked the Surly single speed hubs out, not really the sort of thing I'm looking for though.These are only suitable for standard dropouts(horizontal or vertical 1mm).where as for the frame i want made i would need a hub that has a 12mm axle that slots through the frame and the hub at the same time(like 20mm through axle forks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 I speak to Clive every now and then. Your after his work, so your his customer not mine. Please contact himI was mearly answering your post/topic hereHe is a CUSTOM frame builder. He'll sort you out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 You can ask him and I'm sure he'd try and accomodate you. But I wouldn't recommend it. You're limiting your choice of hubs lots, and you'll have absolutely no resale value if you try and sell the frame. The 360 dropouts are kind of the same idea as through-axles. They're supposed to hold the wheel in place better, and they do very well. You don't need a stiffer rear axle at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob87 Posted July 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 But I wouldn't recommend it. You're limiting your choice of hubs lots, and you'll have absolutely no resale value if you try and sell the frame. Not realy limiting my choices of hubs, there are tons of companys that make 12mm through hubs.Gusset, Hadley, Chris King, Ringle, DT swiss, Atom Lab, Hope and Burgtec aswell as many others, so not limiting my choice, just expanding it.As for selling the frame. If i actualy get this frame built for me theres no chance in hell i'll sell it because Leeson frames are a work of art. If however i was to sell the frame i'd sell it as a frame kit including the hub and anything else needed to run this type of hub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Think f**king logicly please. Think he ment a hub thats worthy of trials use.Gusset, Hadley, Ringle, DT swiss, Atom Lab, Burgtec^ they are 12mm bolt through 150mm spacing, not 135mm spacing so they a no goChris King^ hd axle only and then it'll need boring out to 12mmGusset, Hadley, Ringle, DT swiss, Atom Lab, Burgtec^ these haven;t been used for trials as they are no good for trialsHope ^ Hope do a 12mm bolt through but i am unsure if you could get a 135mm spacing. i can ask for you but you had have to be a good customer to Hope a sin a shop basis to get it. Your personly wont be able too. ThWhos the samrt ass no eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 how would you know hope on a shop basis?maybe the 12mm bolt through is a benefit for dh, but for trials its just overkill. you dont need the stiff rear end because you dont have a swingarm and you arnt riding fast, turning quickley over rough ground.just get regular spacing and axle size. noone else has problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Erm i'm family to them, my old man surpiles them with aprts for the pads and oh i order 3x min a week from them.The more you order the better you become as a shop customer to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 i know the guy at hope pretty well, who are you related to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 (edited) Get a burgtec and be different, I and some others have been wondering for a while if they are any good for trials Pete, Burgtec are available in 150/12mm, 135/12mm and 135/QR...cba to look at what the others are available in... Edited July 5, 2006 by adamtrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike425 Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Did someone say that hope dont do 135mm x 12mm? I might have misread..... but anyhow, ive got one here with me now, its a bulb, and hadley do them as well, ive run them before....mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Did someone say that hope dont do 135mm x 12mm? I might have misread..... but anyhow, ive got one here with me now, its a bulb, and hadley do them as well, ive run them before....mikeLooks like Pete's just been mildly pwned 3 times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike425 Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 And if he still dont beleive me http://www.hopegb.com/voir_RHBU32H135S12.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 No i said i was unsure. When was the last time you saw a hope bigun used for trials..um 97 for me it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob87 Posted July 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Think f**king logicly please. Think he ment a hub thats worthy of trials use.Gusset, Hadley, Ringle, DT swiss, Atom Lab, Burgtec^ they are 12mm bolt through 150mm spacing, not 135mm spacing so they a no goWhos the samrt ass no ehI already said at the start of this post that i wanted the frame built around a 150mm wide hub not 135mm.As for the hubs that i've named, these are all suitable trials hubs, nobody ever said it has to be a Hope hub.Dont realy know why your complaining about me wanting to do something original with my frame choice, start thinking outside the box.I'm going to be using this frame for street and saying using a 12mm through axel is overkill is a bit extreme, most 26 inch trials frames flex quite a lot at the rear end and usualy snap on the chainstays.Not trying to say Leesons are week, i'm just trying to safeguard my frame and do something original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Good for you, go for something different and see how it goes. Might even be the norm in a few years if it catches on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.