Brian Bleech Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 (edited) well lilttle update... bought some brand new avid sd5 callipers over day for chaep, and wow break is awesome, so loud now, and hold and bite is easily if not better than a magura, thing i found with a magura is that beacause the pads "clip" in the pad rolls slightly which means when land on the edge of something the pad will roll leading the brake to slip, as vees are fixed pads=no pad roll which imo makes the break hole hell of a lot bettter, so im sooooo happy with my vee now, also alot stiffer i find than my maggie even witout a booster on the vee, and cause of the oddsey cable no cable flex either, workin top notch cant really see myself changing back to a v magura now!!cheers Edited July 7, 2006 by leedstrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteboy Posted July 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 cheers :$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg Fried Rice Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 im soooooooo tempted to switch to Vees! argh! decisions decisons.JK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Just muc-off'd my rear SD7.I think I just deafened everyone within a 10 mile radius.On a similar subject (threadjack alert): anyone know how to get the lever to spring back quicker on a V? My front one's fine, but the rear (with the same spring tension at the cantis) seems to take forever. Almost as long as a maggy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg Fried Rice Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 where can i buy magura pad adapters, anyone got any for sale? or how can i bodge them up?thanksJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 I wouldn't mind running a vee on the back of my 20". Only problem with running vee's for me is that the levers aren't long enough. I like my levers long. I supose a bmx lever like a tech 77 would be nice but it contains no springs. Anyone tried using a vee with a bmx lever? Just wondered if was possible to get it to work nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_skj0lsvik_ Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 I wouldn't mind running a vee on the back of my 20". Only problem with running vee's for me is that the levers aren't long enough. I like my levers long. I supose a bmx lever like a tech 77 would be nice but it contains no springs. Anyone tried using a vee with a bmx lever? Just wondered if was possible to get it to work nicely.I've used a bmx lever, not good. IE the brake is too mushy. TOO MUSHY!I know why it is bad, but I dont think I can manage tell you in english. Someone els has to do that.The WIRE is too close the handlebar. If you want a stiff brake you've gotta have the wire as long as you can away from your handlebar.If you have your wire as near the handlebar as they are on bmx levers, the stronger and mushier it will feel.Damn, hard to explain for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 basically, with a bmx lever you have ahench amount of leverage and not much cable pull. so it stretches the cable, however it would be mad powefull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sixstreet Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 I changed my Maggie rear to Avid SD7 throughout, no grind, no booster. Only a tiny bit spongier but way grippier. 2 thumbs up for cable V's and will prob change the front out soon. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott-mad Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 (edited) anyone who slates v-brakes realy needs to try one out. i had a realy good maggie with cnc pads rb lever and all that shiz but just got bored with adjusting it all the time and setting it up square with the rim so swapped this maggie for some ultimate arms and few other bits sold the bits bought a new ultimate lever and sent off the white cnc pads to steve to get coust material in them. and it works amazing! it locks on better then my maggie with tar on a smooth rim! it has modulation too and has NO flex and i mean none at all unless you pull it with two hands. this is with a bog standard 3.99 cable too.ill try get some pics of the setup if anyone is intrested?edit: i think theres alot of differance between bottom of the range arms and avid ultimate arms as they run on sealed bearings etc.and also dont be put off by a brake lever that has no return spring, my ultimate is the newer revised version that has been out for awhile now and has no spring and returns as quick as you take your finger off it.hope this may help someone a little Edited July 9, 2006 by scott-mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott-mad Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 heres a couple of pics for anyone who cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Just muc-off'd my rear SD7.I think I just deafened everyone within a 10 mile radius.On a similar subject (threadjack alert): anyone know how to get the lever to spring back quicker on a V? My front one's fine, but the rear (with the same spring tension at the cantis) seems to take forever. Almost as long as a maggy...You need to change the cable and flush the housing through with some gt85, then stick something nice and thick down after it, for example finish line wet loob, or some sort of wax loob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 On a similar subject (threadjack alert): anyone know how to get the lever to spring back quicker on a V? My front one's fine, but the rear (with the same spring tension at the cantis) seems to take forever. Almost as long as a maggy...You need a bit more spring tension at the canti's because a rear vee brake has to pull more cable that a front one, so set the tension to about 40% more than the front and it should pull about the same.Someone might have another idea though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Tried both of the above suggestions to no avail.I mean, I can get it to spring back quicker by cranking the rear spring tension, but it feels WAY to hard to pull then (way harder than it should be anyway), so something's wrong somewhere along the line, and the cable is pretty new so I doubt it's that. I cleaned it out and whacked some grease down it anyway.Wondering if it's noodle related? I get the feeling from looking at it that I may have the rear noodle on t' front and vice versa (am I right in thinking that the rear is supposed to be a slightly different angle to the front? which is which?)Years ago I knew all this stuff :\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Tried both of the above suggestions to no avail.I mean, I can get it to spring back quicker by cranking the rear spring tension, but it feels WAY to hard to pull then (way harder than it should be anyway), so something's wrong somewhere along the line, and the cable is pretty new so I doubt it's that. I cleaned it out and whacked some grease down it anyway.Wondering if it's noodle related? I get the feeling from looking at it that I may have the rear noodle on t' front and vice versa (am I right in thinking that the rear is supposed to be a slightly different angle to the front? which is which?)Years ago I knew all this stuff :\try flushing you noodle out with some gt85 or similar, noodles are the worst thing about vees imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King C Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 my freind runs vees its jusy a standard shimano with avid levers and a tioga brake booster with custom v-mounts coat it with a tad of tar works the knuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_travis Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 scott-mad -you ran maguras on a planet-x. for a start = no fourbolt mounts which is shit. and probably a standard booster i imagine. maguras will always rule in my opinion. i wouldnt use anything different.stop moaning everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 scott-mad -you ran maguras on a planet-x. for a start = no fourbolt mounts which is shit. and probably a standard booster i imagine. maguras will always rule in my opinion. i wouldnt use anything different.stop moaning everyone You'll start moaning too when you get fed up of breaking hoses and having to helicoil your frame's ass every few years. I think everyone who's been doing this long enough on a budget (and is lazy enough) grows out of maguras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I still like my v brake and now with my updated super uber home made pads, the brake is unstopable!!!! it will surly take over the world (known as mars) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 Tried both of the above suggestions to no avail.I mean, I can get it to spring back quicker by cranking the rear spring tension, but it feels WAY to hard to pull then (way harder than it should be anyway), so something's wrong somewhere along the line, and the cable is pretty new so I doubt it's that. I cleaned it out and whacked some grease down it anyway.Wondering if it's noodle related? I get the feeling from looking at it that I may have the rear noodle on t' front and vice versa (am I right in thinking that the rear is supposed to be a slightly different angle to the front? which is which?)Years ago I knew all this stuff :\you have most likely put a kink in your inner cable.... happens when you crash or bail...I run, Ultimate lever and calliper, nokon housing and CRV/Spanish fly (i lost one of my crv pads )I need to change the cable and give it a re lube.... but i will never run maggies ever again.... they suck major dick.I know for most of you this isnt an issue.. but one of the major reasons i run vees also, is the fact that they are silent.... well they way i set up up... I HATE having a noisy bike! Feel so much smoother with my vees Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rav Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 (edited) My current set is:RIM BT 38mm Double wallLevers XTBrake AVID 1D 2000 yearXTR CablesPads CRVMy previous set up was HS33 2004+CRM and HS33 2006+CRM.Conclusion...will never switch to HS33 Magie...maybe rear disc but no more HS33.Olso I could say that narrower rim 38mm compared to 47mm gives me better dump using same tyre 2.5. Edited July 15, 2006 by rav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 "I still like my v brake and now with my updated super uber home made pads, the brake is unstopable!!!!"Unstoppable brake? Are you using solid blocks of teflon in your uber home made pads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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