Rear V Break

[Whiteboy]

well im fed up with my magura always leaking and neading new things for it so im thinkng of making the moce to a rear v brake. just wondering if i can have a few peoples oppinions. my current set up is: rb lever, coust/sink pad/normal tubing braided cross over and and normall slaves etc. now this is a good braek but is always going wrong so looking to go to a vee. will be keeping the coust material to wack into some sink vee backings but what else will be need. dont want to spend a fortune, was thinking something along the lines of avid lever and avid callipers of some sort and like just clarks cable. now i have a control 05 at the mo so would be needing some vee adapters. whats good thats out there? so if someone could recomend me a cheapish but good set up that be great. and whats the most important part of a vee? and can they be as good as a magura?

cheers.

[Rich Pearson]

Mate, you kow how good my V was. Worked for years with no troubles. I had: XTR calipers and levers, Shimano XTR Booster (also ran a bog standard unbranded one for a while which worked just as well) Clarkes cables, Echo Clear pads and a sun rhyno lyte with a light grind (which you did incidently).

Catch me on MSN and we'll talk about the set of XTR's I happen to have lying around if you're interested.

Rich

[_skj0lsvik_]

A rear vee is always a good choise..

I'm using Shimano LX cantis(not the paralell ones), a cheap Shimano lever and Jagwire Teflon housing. And I've just got my KOXX Bloxx Reds into my old plazmatic backings now so my brake is ûbeer good!

You dont need to spend thousands of $$$ to get a decent vee, mine is near perfect now with lots of bite and lock!

Cheers and good luck!

Edit: Since I'm using a Tibo I've gotta use adapters too, I'm using the old heatsink ones. Theire brilliant!

Edited July 1, 2006 by _skj0lsvik_

[Whiteboy]

much flex in the frame when running a v brake? will i need to be running a booster ontop even with my control frame?

whats the odesey cables like? will be good for rear? im givin a go at making my own adapters so see how they, purelly for the fact just want to see if its gunna be woth buying some sink adapters if they work ok.

cheers

[Thom]

I prefer V brakes over maggies, if setup right they can be plenty powerful. I wouldn't get XTR in my experiences because they have parallel push and all the linkages become loose overtime making the brake feel poo. Same with the avid arch rival, shimano xt and old lx. Stick with the 'normal' calipers like SD5, SD7, Deore, New LX, Ultimate. If you have the money than get ultimates because they really are the best. But if not its more important to buy good levers and good housing.

For levers, XTR is really good and so are XT's, XTR's last longer apparantly. I prefer the feel of shimano levers over the avids because they have a thinner blade. Having said that the avid ultimate lever has a different blade to all the other avids and feels the best and is the best lever you can get but it cost a bucket load. So I would just get XTR's if you want to keep the cost down

Housing, I've never tried nokon but odessey linear slic's are awsome, really makes the brake alot stiffer, I've been using it for about a year now and haven't noticed any sponginess. I prefer it over my xtr housing, plus they come in funky colours.

Right now I run SD5 calipers, RB booster, Ultimate levers, linear slic's and Heatsink whites without a grind. The power is much better than my maggie with plazmatic pads. I've never needed v brake adapters so i don't know anything about it but have heard the new heatsink ones are really good.

Edited July 2, 2006 by norco_trials

[_skj0lsvik_]

much flex in the frame when running a v brake? will i need to be running a booster ontop even with my control frame?

whats the odesey cables like? will be good for rear? im givin a go at making my own adapters so see how they, purelly for the fact just want to see if its gunna be woth buying some sink adapters if they work ok.

cheers

Nah, dont think you would need a booster.. Hmm, you're using the new or old control? The new has the integrated booster doesn't they?

I'm only using a "half" standard magura booster...

Here's my setup:

[Jez]

Nah, dont think you would need a booster.. Hmm, you're using the new or old control? The new has the integrated booster doesn't they?

I'm only using a "half" standard magura booster...

Here's my setup:

That still won't stop brake boss flex or the stop the seatstay 'twisting'.

I've got SD7's all round with heatsink reds (apparently identical to the whites) in heatsink backings with a Brand X carbon booster on the back. The booster is crap to be honest, get something metal instead.

The only problem with my set up is that I find I need to clean the pads every so often to scrape off/muc-off all the ali dust that's built up on the pads. After a good muc-off they're forking AWESOME. And obnoxiously loud.

Oh and the SD7 levers ate my cheapass brake cable (snapped the cable at the nipple), so whatever cable you get, make sure it's good.

And don't buy the rear SD7 canti, buy the front one. The rear cantis flex a lot, but the front one feels solid as hell (I did a post on this a while back).

Edited July 2, 2006 by Jez

[poopipe]

are you sure your leaking problems aren't down to the notoriously leaky rb lever ?

you could always switch back to a magura one to see if it sorts your troubles out before forking out £60 odd on a v-brake

just a thought. ...

[mat hudson]

edd potts makes a cool intergrated booster/adaptor. wasnt a bad price and its mega stiff! 10mm thick alu!

[_skj0lsvik_]

edd potts makes a cool intergrated booster/adaptor. wasnt a bad price and its mega stiff! 10mm thick alu!

Heavy shizzle.

That still won't stop brake boss flex or the stop the seatstay 'twisting'.

I've got SD7's all round with heatsink reds (apparently identical to the whites) in heatsink backings with a Brand X carbon booster on the back. The booster is crap to be honest, get something metal instead.

The only problem with my set up is that I find I need to clean the pads every so often to scrape off/muc-off all the ali dust that's built up on the pads. After a good muc-off they're forking AWESOME. And obnoxiously loud.

Oh and the SD7 levers ate my cheapass brake cable (snapped the cable at the nipple), so whatever cable you get, make sure it's good.

And don't buy the rear SD7 canti, buy the front one. The rear cantis flex a lot, but the front one feels solid as hell (I did a post on this a while back).

Maybe I should try to find a decent v-brake booster.. But I didn't find anyone which was wide enough for my tibo frame? I think it was like 98mm wide or somethin'

Whatever?...

[mat hudson]

yer, the weight brought my sidehop down 0.321342534 of an inch

[Ben Geary]

Surprised Paul hasn't posted in this thread yet

Shocker !

Edited July 2, 2006 by Ben Geary

[CurtisRider]

well i wasnt gonna reply ben, cos basically everything has been said

meh, anywho, avid ultimate callipers=the best ever, sd7/deore=best on a budget

levers wise-xtr or ultimate, i cant stand anything else personally

linear slick cables=the best, i have nokons and overall i dont really like them, linears are cheaper too

heatsink backings with whatever maggy pad inside that you prefer=damn good, crv backings are a bit deep and so the arms on the brake have to stick out too much

adaptors, i use bonz, fooking excellent, however the heatsink ones that steve shopwed me are near identical now, and look really nice-so get some

ermmm not much else to say really, if you need any help/advice on setting it up in the right way, im pretty confident i can help you get the best out of it

[Whiteboy]

ok well got a rear vee pretty much free today so wacked one on n at the mo obviously not brilliant alot of sponge but im putting that down to the clarks cable, tomorro will be buying a odssey jobbie and the spongey pads tomorro wil be gettin some of those refillable clarks ones. so heres a few pics, soon to be oredered. sink vee pads and sink adapters.

anyone know if the clarks pads (reffilable oens) are any good, they gunna see me throught till i get my sinks?s?

cheers.

[mat hudson]

um, your current pads should be good enough, what are they? plaz one side and somthing random on the other. you spacering isnt corect either. it should be fat concave, thin convex, brake arm, thin convex, thin concave.

[Whiteboy]

brake pads are a massive bodge, bassicly a maggie pad with bolt ramed throught then pad stuck ontop. what set up are you running just outa intrest ^^^^?

[ScotchDave]

I run, new gen sink reds, sink 4 bolt adapters, new LX arms, an xt lever, and xtr booster on a zenith and a fibrax cable. I was honestly amazed by how good my brake was on a smooth rim, can't wait to grind it...

[DAB]

nice bodge job!!!!!!! what a&e shall i call to expect you when that falls apart!!!!!!!

maguras will leak and go shit if if you..

A.. own an rb lever

B.. have a crap braided hose(iv'e seen load of them leek even magura brand ones..)

C.. don't set them up right....

if your going to try v's do it right....... if that bodge fails on you,(and it looks like it will) and you post a thread about the hole in your leg or the pair of bar's you chewed....... i will find it funny.....

[Matt_Tupman]

TOM!!!

I've been think the same thing latley I miss my Ultimates they were so cool there just wasn't good pads back then but now it's very tempting.

Gonna have to sell some stuff first but i'm gona order some again V's for the win, I knew i'd go back as soon as I sold them

[Ali C]

I would be running a vee but I think martyn would prefer me using a maggie due to sponsor issues.

I did have a vee for a short while on my ashton, it was pretty dam good, however it was on a 48mm wide echo rim which pushed the brake out loads, so they wern't in the best position, I recken on my dx31 they would be amazing!

[MikeCottTrials]

I would be running a vee but I think martyn would prefer me using a maggie due to sponsor issues.

I did have a vee for a short while on my ashton, it was pretty dam good, however it was on a 48mm wide echo rim which pushed the brake out loads, so they wern't in the best position, I recken on my dx31 they would be amazing!

not another bmx'y comment, you better get a super highh bb bike that doesnt manual bunnyhop or spin otherwise im going to gun you down

[mat hudson]

brake pads are a massive bodge, bassicly a maggie pad with bolt ramed throught then pad stuck ontop. what set up are you running just outa intrest ^^^^?

coust pads in heatsink cnc'd backings. really really good.

although, considering you can get the material for 8quid off daddy coustelier we get a little raped.

anyone know anywhere that has crv's in stock?

edit: heres the booster and v adaptor edd potts made me. i wont say exactley how much it was because he might want to charge more in the future. all i will say is, it was half the price of a booster and adaptor bought sepratley.

Edited July 3, 2006 by mat hudson

[kaar3l]

Avid SD7 Lever + XTR housing + New LX arms + Mielec with v-brake mounts + a homemade booster + Aluminium brake pad thingies(don't know how is it in english) + light grind = super v-brake and stiff

[scott-mad]

yeh v-brakes are the shiz!! i run an avid ultimate lever and caliper with heatsink coust pads and an xtr carbon booster on a smooth black ex721 rim works amazing! even in the wet!!

[_skj0lsvik_]

I would be running a vee but I think martyn would prefer me using a maggie due to sponsor issues.

I did have a vee for a short while on my ashton, it was pretty dam good, however it was on a 48mm wide echo rim which pushed the brake out loads, so they wern't in the best position, I recken on my dx31 they would be amazing!

Ey, dont mess with dx32's! Its DX32, not 31..

Arg, kids nowadays...