shucksmith1 Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 am realy interested in this frame but have a few questions.whats it good for, is it a street bike or can it be riden well on natural as well?is it worth the money when it is only £5 less that a python or an echo team?and what rear hub can u get in it as the drop outs look realy thin.cheers matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyb Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 I had a toxsin short and i found it very very nice to ride street and nattie. I used a profile on the rear, it is deffinatly worth the money try using a long and a high rise stem, it is posibly the best bike i have riden.Got a few pic's hereI say it deffinatly worth getting one mate you will not look back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollocks Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 this people asking about does this frame or that frame ride this or that makes me laugh i ride both natural and urban and its the rider that makes the diffrence in my opinion if you ride natural or urban better thats you as you may see how to ride it better i.e be a little bit more naturaly talented towards this area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddy Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 theres one problem with the short toxsin (or so i have been told) when they made the long version the put a 71 degree head angle on it they then wanted to make a shorter version similar to the monty 221 but they kept the same headangle of 71 where as the monty has a head angle of 74ish so even though the monty is the same wheel base it feels longer as the bars are further away from the bb, iv had a go on the short toxsin and in my opinion it was awful really short and the front end didn't want to stay up it took alot of effort to ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara Logan-Price Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 theres one problem with the short toxsin (or so i have been told) when they made the long version the put a 71 degree head angle on it they then wanted to make a shorter version similar to the monty 221 but they kept the same headangle of 71 where as the monty has a head angle of 74ish so even though the monty is the same wheel base it feels longer as the bars are further away from the bb, iv had a go on the short toxsin and in my opinion it was awful really short and the front end didn't want to stay up it took alot of effort to ridethats cause your tall fat and gay i love my toxsin tis beast for natty and street deffo get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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