Thurston Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Right so heres the story, i bought a set of echo easys second hand, the steerer is way to short.Would it be safe to get a really long stem bolt and run it like thatOr would the bolt snap under all the pressure and with it being so longCheers Thurston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspired Dave Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Anything with the steerer below the centre of the top bolt is a tad sketchy imo. Especially on a mod bike with a big fat stem for leverage!How far off the top of the stem is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 its about an inch and a half of the top of the stem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Probably not a sound idea to run it then. When the stem's on, is it near-ish to the bottom bolt or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Cable Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 I heard about someone on here, increasing there steerer, with some nifty machining and stuff? ill have a look for who it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 (edited) Probably not a sound idea to run it then. When the stem's on, is it near-ish to the bottom bolt or something?It's on a zoo stem, its at the top of the bottom bolt Edited June 28, 2006 by TB_Levelboss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Then it really isn't a good idea to run it, unfortunately Like Dave said, the middle of the top bolt is usually regard at the minimum safe height, so running it a load lower isn't great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 some people do though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 ahh well, new forks it is then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOLO Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 i personally would just use it, if its at the top of the bottom bolt.run a headlock, and go have fun !! iolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onza Kieron Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 i personally would just use it, if its at the top of the bottom bolt.run a headlock, and go have fun !! ioloI agree, I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 ok thanks guys, ill see about getting a headlock and run it that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.loves.boys Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Buy a monty pr stembecuase of the small stem bolt clamping i can amost garuntee itll fit.its near enough the same geo as a zoo and the 73 quid monty one.i like mjine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 i don't want to buy another stem, i only just got the zoo one today, along with these forks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 (edited) i don't want to buy another stem, i only just got the zoo one today, along with these forksI might buy the Zoo! one if you were to sell it though... (maybe)P.S, i have a monty stem, with a small steerer clamp... type... thing Yeah.Older style monty..In silver! Man, i have just edited 4 times in 30 seconds :| lol Edited June 28, 2006 by terror-error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 maybe if you do risk braining yourself and run it, you could put in a cuttoff from another steerer on top of the real steerer - give the top bolt summut to go at - you could even bolt it on with a slightly modified bmx stylee star nut arrangement then do up the whole thing with a headlock thingmy .... ?but still a dodgy thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 I might buy the Zoo! one if you were to sell it though... (maybe)P.S, i have a monty stem, with a small steerer clamp... type... thing Yeah.Older style monty..In silver! Man, i have just edited 4 times in 30 seconds :| lolI'd rather just headlock it until i can get new forks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbra Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 whats a headlock? :$ :$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_P Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 I heard about someone on here, increasing there steerer, with some nifty machining and stuff? ill have a look for who it wasMe?Like you, I bought some second hand fattys and the steere was about an inch too short.I really didn't want to sell them as their rare forks and these were in mint condition.My dad had a clever idea to make up the extra length.He made an insert peice from steel tube that slotted in the steere as the bottom was machined down, then it was welded all around the edge and made smooth like normal. Then drilled the middle out and it was perfect.Did a really good job as he took them to work and sorted it all there, i've been running these forks for about 2/3 months and no problems at all so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Me?Like you, I bought some second hand fattys and the steere was about an inch too short.I really didn't want to sell them as their rare forks and these were in mint condition.My dad had a clever idea to make up the extra length.He made an insert peice from steel tube that slotted in the steere as the bottom was machined down, then it was welded all around the edge and made smooth like normal. Then drilled the middle out and it was perfect.Did a really good job as he took them to work and sorted it all there, i've been running these forks for about 2/3 months and no problems at all so far Sounds easy, its getting someone to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smelly joe Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Those fork's of rob's have a steel steerer tube though, so it would be a lot easyier to increase the length.would probably be a bit sketchy with easy's because of the aluminium steerer, finding a tig welder may be hard, and if the aluminium of the steerer is heat treated then u'll have thurther problems aswell as it will cock up all the properties of the metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 What headset do you run?Changing to a lower stack (such as the 'El Cheapo' on Tartybikes) will give you a few mm, and only cost a tenner. Might be worth doing this in conjunction with extension of the steerer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted June 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 im running a king at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Yeah going from a king to an el cheapo isn't something i'd have thought you'd be inclined to do.My old forks were so cut down it only clamped using the bottom bolt, i just made sure the bottom bolt was done up very tight indeed and that the top cap bolt was tight as well.That was untill my mate had the brilliant idea of bodging it. What we did was get another piece of steerer tube and cut it to the correct size so that there was enough steerer tube up the inside of the stem clamp.... so the piece was about 3/4 of an inch long. We then placed this piece of steerer tube into the stem while it was attached to the rest of the steerer tube in the frame and tightened up the stem bolts. The fantatsicly unusual next bit was to carefully hammer a second star fangled nut into this new piece of steerer tube so there was a star nut in both the new piece and the steerer thats attached to the forks. Once it was in place we tightened the topcap bolt up through both star fangled nuts and is seemed to last very well indeed. Well the forks snapped at the bottom of the steerer before the bodge broke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted June 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Yeah going from a king to an el cheapo isn't something i'd have thought you'd be inclined to do.My old forks were so cut down it only clamped using the bottom bolt, i just made sure the bottom bolt was done up very tight indeed and that the top cap bolt was tight as well.That was untill my mate had the brilliant idea of bodging it. What we did was get another piece of steerer tube and cut it to the correct size so that there was enough steerer tube up the inside of the stem clamp.... so the piece was about 3/4 of an inch long. We then placed this piece of steerer tube into the stem while it was attached to the rest of the steerer tube in the frame and tightened up the stem bolts. The fantatsicly unusual next bit was to carefully hammer a second star fangled nut into this new piece of steerer tube so there was a star nut in both the new piece and the steerer thats attached to the forks. Once it was in place we tightened the topcap bolt up through both star fangled nuts and is seemed to last very well indeed. Well the forks snapped at the bottom of the steerer before the bodge broke How long did they last for after you bodged them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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