FuZ Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 (edited) Some time ago I’ve bought tektro disc brake (about 10 euro). It didn't give me braking level that is needed for trial. That's why I decide to make disc and pads by myself. I didn't have problems with the disc. It was made by local drunk master . I had problems with pads. My experience shows, that glue won’t handle the flat surface. There is two ways of solving this: 1) to rivet the material to the pad's platform. It is a bad idea because it will destroy the disc. 2) To make ledges on the pad's material. It will do.The steps of creating pads are shown in the photos.I don't think that this article will be interesting for magura or hope owner.... it for others Validation here I go ))) WARNING!!! USE RESPIRATOR!!! Or the dust of this shit will damage your health. Edited June 18, 2006 by FuZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flower Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 I'm confused are u trying to say you have made your own disk and pads but the pads don't stick to the backings? or that you need some assistance or is it something irrelevant that you put up due to boredom.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuZ Posted June 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 hm.. no. Everything fine. I test it. The braking level is much better than with standart disc/pads... its like an article for those, who interested in increasing brake force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
future orange 660 Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 hes just trying to get validated.just go for a decent brake instead of trying to make you own. im sorry but that disc looks awful in one piece. at least stick it on the mill and make some cool patterns. the holes in discs allow for cooling but also privide more 'bite' since there is more area for the pads to grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 I think thats a mint idea!!How thicks the rotor, standard width??How long do the pads last for?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuZ Posted June 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 future orange 660tsssssss.... it's a secret disc is fine. Holes will destroy pads material. Look at the plazmatic disc. It has no holes.merlin_rider>How thicks the rotor, standard width??no. it's 3 - 3.5 mm width>How long do the pads last for??very long. It's a very good material. It's used for shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OD404 Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 hes just trying to get validated.just go for a decent brake instead of trying to make you own. im sorry but that disc looks awful in one piece. at least stick it on the mill and make some cool patterns. the holes in discs allow for cooling but also privide more 'bite' since there is more area for the pads to grip.There's no harm in that is there?If people didn't try their own things we wouldn't half the innovative products available to us today. I say good on the lad for having a go and making the best of what he's got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 I think it could be a soloution to disks bending really easily,i imagaine that even though it is aluminium it will be harder to bend than asteel standard one when hit on something?Good job, homemade stuff/ innovations are the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flower Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 hm.. no. Everything fine. I test it. The braking level is much better than with standart disc/pads... its like an article for those, who interested in increasing brake force.Oh i see m8 sorry. Dosnt look all that but if it stops you and is more powerfull then nice job. Most people say go and buy one. But it takes a bit of savvy to actually do it. Nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuZ Posted June 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 tnx for replies!I'm thinkin about painting the disc . Maybe then it will look less primitive Also I think alu disc is better, because its making avalible to use tar... or how do you call it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 Ah sweet!!Deffinatly looks good, maybe one day you should try and get a rotor cut with a CNC machine or a laser, with a pattern of your own design on, will look ace then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 tnx for replies!I'm thinkin about painting the disc . Maybe then it will look less primitive Also I think alu disc is better, because its making avalible to use tar... or how do you call itI dont think tar would actually make it any better, as as far as i am aware diskbrakes stop in a different way to rim brakes, so you have the best combinationthere of a totally smooth rotor and smooth pads according to whatever scientific principle it is, hopefully someone who knows about it can tell more. However aluminium rotors should stop better than a steel rotor i think, but thats down to the material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 (edited) Don't paint it, the paint will probably die from the heat etc, tar melts on diskbrakes and makes them aqua-plane and if your lucky smoke comes out (did it on my mtb for a laugh, went down a huge hill with my lever touching my bar and smoke pumping from my calliper/rotor) then again you don't get alot of heat froma trial disk realy, but don't do it youl probably spontaniously combust Edit: Forgot to say i realy liked the brake looks ace! Edited June 18, 2006 by ogre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Your problem is how your mounting the polyurethane to the brake shoe. 1 You need to have the polyurethane mount into the shoe(check some normal disc pads, you'll see what i mean)2 That glue is not good enough what so ever3 The polyurethane is probs too softHow come i can say this1 My dad owns EBC, they know disc and pads inisde out2 I've worked there and am set to inherat it so i got to know what i'm onabout3 I've tried this with some of my material on a disc i groundI use epoxy to stick my material on to the pads. Devocon 2 TON! On a disc you have stuiped amoutns of shear on the pad, this stuff never let me down ever ever.The disc i used was a Hope wavy, Hope will make you any disc you want from what they have made over the ten years stil ltoday which is cool. It's a solid flat surfaceI tried it with no grind, plane disc and it worked, how ever i wanted it to be uber powerfull, more than my 203 mono trials (custome order). So i put a grind on the disc, one grind going one way and the other the other. I did this with bolted to an old wheel spining. This was so the brake would grab ether way the wheel went and work. Oh and it didI use this on a mono min 160 front and it was amazing. I'm still tweaking it all loads and have an agreement in place with Hope on a few things. Te shoesi can get off me Dad @ EBCI'm away right now and all the pics are on the works laptop so once i'm back i'll sort it out hopefully.Oh if your going to use super glue you need a primer and the only stuff to use is Loc Tite (sp) stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 (edited) Your problem is how your mounting the polyurethane to the brake shoe. 1 You need to have the polyurethane mount into the shoe(check some normal disc pads, you'll see what i mean)2 That glue is not good enough what so ever3 The polyurethane is probs too softHow come i can say this1 My dad owns EBC, they know disc and pads inisde out2 I've worked there and am set to inherat it so i got to know what i'm onabout3 I've tried this with some of my material on a disc i groundI use epoxy to stick my material on to the pads. Devocon 2 TON! On a disc you have stuiped amoutns of shear on the pad, this stuff never let me down ever ever.The disc i used was a Hope wavy, Hope will make you any disc you want from what they have made over the ten years stil ltoday which is cool. It's a solid flat surfaceI tried it with no grind, plane disc and it worked, how ever i wanted it to be uber powerfull, more than my 203 mono trials (custome order). So i put a grind on the disc, one grind going one way and the other the other. I did this with bolted to an old wheel spining. This was so the brake would grab ether way the wheel went and work. Oh and it didI use this on a mono min 160 front and it was amazing. I'm still tweaking it all loads and have an agreement in place with Hope on a few things. Te shoesi can get off me Dad @ EBCI'm away right now and all the pics are on the works laptop so once i'm back i'll sort it out hopefully.Oh if your going to use super glue you need a primer and the only stuff to use is Loc Tite (sp) stuffi think ur full of prokies, id like to see proof of your dad owning ebc (Y)http://www.ebcbrakes.com/About%20Us.html proof Edited June 19, 2006 by Snowy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomturd Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 My dad owns EBCFounded in 1978, the EBC Brakes Group is still a private company owned exclusively by the current managing director Andy Freeman.Is your dad Andy Freeman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connor Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 haha nice one he'll say its his step dad or somthing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 (edited) So your dads name is andy freeman?Also grinds on discs are shit, they dont work anywhere near as well and shouldn't because disc pads need a smooth surface in order to work to their maximum potential. however if your dad owned ebc brakes i'm sure he would have told you this EDIT: Tom beat me to it Edited June 19, 2006 by Krisboats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Good on you for trying new stuff dude. I think anyone who has slated it needs to have a go themselves and see if they can do a better job using materials and tools available to him. Not everyone wants fashion over function. This looks like it cost less than ~£10, and that is very commendable, especially given the possible lack of decent trials stuff in his part of Russia. You are hilarious.Pick one of the above that applies to you/your statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Pete will you ever learn to stop blatantly lying?!Anyway back on topic, I always thought that the holes in discs were to stop the pads from glazing over or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I thought the holes were largely to help disipate heat, decrease weight, get mud/dirt off the pads, and to look purdy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddy Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 (edited) you wouldn't want holes in your disc if your using polyurathane they would rip them to shredsand as for using epoxy resin it dosent grip to polyurathane you can just peel it off with your fingers so using it on a disc pad is a stupid idea, super glue (cyano acrilate) is the best for it. your brake looks mint mate i was going to try and do the same, maybe try koxx brown or something lol or a realy hard polyurathane Edited June 19, 2006 by wad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 (edited) I thought the holes were so they work in the wet Looks good anyway, how does the weight compare to the standard rotor? Edited June 19, 2006 by adamtrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Cable Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Is your dad Andy Freeman?pwned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuZ Posted June 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 (edited) N.WoodYeah... our town is trial-god forsaken town. We don't have trial dillers, no even shops where to buy magura Our town blocked from other Russia by Poland...adamtrialsstandart rotor is more(or much? ) heavyTested out the brake today... sweet Breaking level is very impressive... i can forget about manuals but say hello to big gaps on front wheel!some photos soon Edited June 19, 2006 by FuZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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