crazy_gap girl Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 i think something that supports your wrist without getting in the way of your handlebars, brake etc would do well What about having gloves which has a wrist protector added on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Gap girl, the problem with integrated supports is that your body becomes reliant on them and becomes weaker beacuse of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 I definitly think stem protection is a biggie. Also bollock(s) protection too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 What about trousers with a plasticy bendy strip in the shin area? shin protection, not even attatched to your leg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 This is kinda where I was going with the idea of a range..it's most basic being just a simple t-shirt with a pattern on the back forming some degree of spinal/back protection.That would be cool, you could have the dainese triangle logo on the back.If it was padded stuff, you even get advertising as a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Tupman Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 I think there's some many I deas here you'd do best to create a Sub range or something like that dovoted to street riders (not just trials) and then have a long line of prototype designes to go with a new brand Just thought I'd add something that can help you: some new technology just appearing on the market is nano particles in a suitable solvent, they harden almost instantly when hit, but are normally fluid, could help for a back protector. Ha someone reads National Geographic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Just thought I'd add something that can help you: some new technology just appearing on the market is nano particles in a suitable solvent, they harden almost instantly when hit, but are normally fluid, could help for a back protector. Seen something working like that before, its something really stupidly easy and simple like whole flour, water and some extra starch. You can get a paddling pool full of it and step in and its a liquid but then if you punch it all of it goes solid for a few seconds at the exact instant your hitting it. Really weird shit.. it goes back to a liquid soon after and you can f**k around with it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Can do that with custard or anything with a similar consistency though, but I wouldn't want to wear a custard-filled back protector.Actually, I wouldn't want to wear a back protector at all. I'm pretty sure if you tot up all the injuries people have had riding trials, very few of them seem to come from hitting your back? May be worth it for the DH market though, although you don't really want to have a solid bit nailing you in the back? Like if you fell off and landed on a rock, the bit where the rock hit would go solid, so you'd have to have some sort of padding there 'cos it wouldn't dissipate the force very well, which is the point of protection/armour?Oh yeah, touch wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve sturt Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 How about a set of shin pads that dont end up stinking like crap after a while. Have some anti sweat layer thing against the skin? Or a back protector where the user can remove "bones" from the inside, enabling movement where its required, yet prviding protection where needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManxTrialSpaz Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Maybe some trousers that have a gel pad at the front. It would protect people's shins and if the gel's right, it could be used to help cool/warm people down/up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 I think there's some many I deas here you'd do best to create a Sub range or something like that dovoted to street riders (not just trials) and then have a long line of prototype designes to go with a new brand Ha someone reads National Geographic No I don't, Sci Am all the way... Seen something working like that before, its something really stupidly easy and simple like whole flour, water and some extra starch. You can get a paddling pool full of it and step in and its a liquid but then if you punch it all of it goes solid for a few seconds at the exact instant your hitting it. Really weird shit.. it goes back to a liquid soon after and you can f**k around with it again.Those are basic examples yes, the stuff I'm referring to are particles a thousandth of a millionth of a meter in size in reliable solvents. These become much harder much faster and return to normal faster too.Can do that with custard or anything with a similar consistency though, but I wouldn't want to wear a custard-filled back protector.Actually, I wouldn't want to wear a back protector at all. I'm pretty sure if you tot up all the injuries people have had riding trials, very few of them seem to come from hitting your back? May be worth it for the DH market though, although you don't really want to have a solid bit nailing you in the back? Like if you fell off and landed on a rock, the bit where the rock hit would go solid, so you'd have to have some sort of padding there 'cos it wouldn't dissipate the force very well, which is the point of protection/armour?Oh yeah, touch wood The whole fluid goes solid, not just the are of impact, aka like normal body armour spreading the load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 (edited) What area do you get to design things? Is it just articles of clothing, or could you actualy do bike parts? I don't really know much about the company.I don't really see any need for protection, the amount of poeple who waer shinpads is very little. Infact the amount of people who wear anything but a helmet is also very little. If your actually going to sell this stuff, maby protection isn't really the way to go. I personaly have never even got a scratch on my shin, and even if i did i doubt i'd wear shinpads becuase it's just pain, then it'll heal, as opposed to wearing a helmet where if you didn't you can cause yourself major damage or even death.If it's just to show off your designing skills though stick with it. And stick at the shin protection area. Helmets and back protection would be difficult, we have a large range of helmets to choose from and i can't really think how they could be designed much better. As for back protection no one would pay the £50+ to buy one, as said befor there are very little back injurys, and i think it'd be nearly impossible to to make a back protector that was 'stiff and flexable'.One idea i've always had has a good pair of trials 'mittens'. Ther the thumb and braking finger were individual from each other and the other 3 fingers were in one big section together. Becuase in winter your fingers do get cold in gloves becuase your fingeres are serperated and they don't heat eachother up.Good luck with it all anyway Edited June 17, 2006 by JT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 im massively in favour of arse protection. im constantly falling on my arse and it gets to hurting after a while. something like veggie wraps but a bit slimmer and on your arse would be great - you might even get bmxers wearing them for grinding protection if they didnt show through girls jeans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 I too dont think back protection is going to be a needed thing in trials. I only ever fallen on my back like twice and it was never enough to need protection for. In downhill its kind of needed as you're travelling at speed over rocks and through trees so if you fell, at speed, you would be more likely to do a serious injury than the unocasional trials rider who falls off at little more than walking pace and can't be arsed to put their hand down first to stop the fall.The shin protection would be something to look into, though i personally dont have a problem with my 661 veggie wraps. They're comfortable lightweight and protect my leg well... front and back I think the flexible padded shorts will be the biggest seller for trials as lots of people manage to bash their thighs/balls on the stem and it hurts a fair amount... especially when falling off the bike and landing on the frame with one leg dangling over each side of the bike, thats a real nutbreaker.I think the priority of protection for trials is something along the lines of:HelmetShin padsAnkle supportGloves (though a large part of this is usually for better grips of the bars rather than protection)Padded shortsBack protectionElbow pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 Howwwwww about.. some lycra style shorts... which have pads on the thighs to stop the old handlbars to thighs bruising. Then you can wear normal shorts over the top... and if no one is into cock huggin lycra.. could make them like sleeves that slide up.. so you have 2 of them one for each thigh. Yummy im getting horny thinking about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 661 already make those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 to be honest the best thing someone could give me would be a glove with padding on the inside of the index finger so im not constantly cutting it to shit when 1 finger braking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroMatt Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 constantly cutting it to shit when 1 finger brakingSimple solution, move the brake in futher, jobs a good un I think shin pads would be in the largest demand, ive done my shins in no end of times as most others have too i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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