gateeight Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) http://www.chargebikes.com/news/news.htmllatest news today (15th June).And it tips the scales at 3.3lbs Edited June 21, 2006 by gateeight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Tasty, vertical drop outs 4 bolt mounts Ti AiIm guessing if its Ti it will retail pretty high, going to give away any geo?Also who is the resisdent trials rider for Charge now? Akrigg yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Just because its ti why do people seem to take it that means it can also be made to be the most non descriptive generic frame in the world? Its just so bog standard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrewsbury Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Looking mighty fine there Mr larson, so its gonna be a Charge/mongoose trials frame?Ti al is gd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Token Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 sure its got maggie mounts but it looks like the geo is off a jump frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Just because its ti why do people seem to take it that means it can also be made to be the most non descriptive generic frame in the world? Its just so bog standard...because big lumps of ti, for making CNC machined parts, are expensive! the way they make the frame there, they're using the least amount ofmaterial as poss, which is good for keeping the price as low as possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 sure its got maggie mounts but it looks like the geo is off a jump frame and how can you tell at a photo of that angle....? jeeez just wait for the spec to be loaded onto the site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamtrials Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Its got a seat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateeight Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 We like your comments jibbers.This is a cost no object frame. It is trials specific (Chris Akrigg's) geometry, with CAD work undertaken by Matt Tongue. It looks like a "normal" frame because that is what we at Charge prefer. Some bicyle trialsin riders like low frames with no saddle, we don't. It is a classic frame, and in our humble opinion, the best money can buy. Light and strong, with careful use of tubing, so that unsightly gussets and reinforcing items are not required. Simple yet functional. That is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) Its got a seat!oh noes!!!! seats are good it looks like the sorta bike ackrigg would ride 390 stays ... ??? Edited June 15, 2006 by leedstrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 We like your comments jibbers.This is a cost no object frame. It is trials specific (Chris Akrigg's) geometry, with CAD work undertaken by Matt Tongue. It looks like a "normal" frame because that is what we at Charge prefer. Some bicyle trialsin riders like low frames with no saddle, we don't. It is a classic frame, and in our humble opinion, the best money can buy. Light and strong, with careful use of tubing, so that unsightly gussets and reinforcing items are not required. Simple yet functional. That is it.Fair play, function over fashion. I quite like the look of it, is this the frame that Akrigg was riding in that clip from a while back on your site? The one where he bunnyhops up that wall out of the bank, then rides back in? If so it looks very streety. I do miss having a seat now I come to think of it, riding around is a nightmare! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateeight Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Fair play, function over fashion. I quite like the look of it, is this the frame that Akrigg was riding in that clip from a while back on your site? The one where he bunnyhops up that wall out of the bank, then rides back in? If so it looks very streety. I do miss having a seat now I come to think of it, riding around is a nightmare!No this is a totally different trials specific frame for 26" wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_Fel Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Nice Frame. Very old school.I hope you arnt planning on making money on it though because you might be disapointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 so is ackrigg still sponsered by mongoose then? I remember the DH team, used to run Intense frames, so they bother making team bikes ... is there gonna be a cheaper steel version, like some of the other charge bikes? and what about forks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 this looks promising. Any chance of a steel, v brake version ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateeight Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Lots of questions, that I dont have answers to. Sorry. The quote, "It is a classic frame, and in our humble opinion, the best money can buy" - this doesn't mean that this product is available to the public to buy, any progress or news will go up on the Charge Bikes website. At Charge Bikes we like seeing what can be achieved with the materials and technology available to us. Bicycle trialsin is particularly demanding on frames, and it is a good way for us to test the functionality of our designs. Our aim is to make the simplest most effective products possible. Chris Akrigg rides for Mongoose / Hyundai. He does NOT ride for Charge Bikes. We at Charge Bikes have no plans to sponsor bicycle trialsin riders. He helped us with the geometry, that is all. This is NOT an Akrigg signature frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexymike Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 looks nicewill await the geo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 This is a cost no object frame. It is trials specific (Chris Akrigg's) geometry, with CAD work undertaken by Matt Tongue. It looks like a "normal" frame because that is what we at Charge prefer. Some bicyle trialsin riders like low frames with no saddle, we don't. It is a classic frame, and in our humble opinion, the best money can buy. Light and strong, with careful use of tubing, so that unsightly gussets and reinforcing items are not required. Simple yet functional. That is it. Looks promising, it is nice to see a 'normal/old school' frame design and presuming geometry being produced again, let alone with a material like titanium. I personally think titanium is the way forward with trials frame's now, however the cost of it will throw people off due to there being many trials companies offering frames at such competitive prices. However if it iniatially doesn't have the purpose of selling to the public it doesn't matter as it is good for company's to play around with the different materials available to them. Good luck with it Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gateeight Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 We don't see this frame as old school. To us this is the way forward. Trials has been made less accessible to the general public by the funky no saddle designs. Which is not a good thing - in our opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Less accessible is really not the type of word you were looking for. In my opinion trials is currently more accessible in the last 6 months than it ever has been. There are litterally buckets loads of parts and frames on the market. Ranging from cheap and cheerful to fully cnc'd wank material (seen by some people). Fair do's for keeping your own original views but without sounding like a willy.. a lot of companies seem to be out of touch with the way trials is moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) We don't see this frame as old school. To us this is the way forward. Trials has been made less accessible to the general public by the funky no saddle designs. Which is not a good thing - in our opinion.I think it goes two ways really: firstly without the modern frame designs i.e no seats etc, the riding standard of trials wouldn't be as high as it is now. There is no way people are gonna be sidehopping 50" plus on a short wheelbase bike with a seat blocking maximum compression over a bike for example. These huge moves being displayed immediatly generates interest to the average person as they wouldn't think it was physically possible to manoeuvre a bike up such large obstacles.On the other hand though people can look at bikes with no seats and automatically think it is stupid and walk away with no insight into what trials is all about.Either way I don't think frame designs are making trials less accessible to the public.... Dan. Edited June 15, 2006 by Danno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Um, just looking at this from a different point of view. A titanium frame will be more expensive than an aluminium frame. It won't be much lighter, but might be more springy if designed in such a way and will also be more durable. The geometry might be a little controversial, so is the size of the frame. This means that fewer riders will buy it than if was much smaller. Maybe this is not the case, but if you release a new product, you want people to buy it and so increase your revenue. Obviously this will depend on the price, but if it's similar to Triton, I can see people buying a Triton instead. Sorry, had to write that, correct me if I'm wrong (and I probably am:) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I think some people didnt see where it said the frame isnt really going to be on sale.I love the frame, I dont really like all these long low seatless bikes (ashton doesnt count;)) Ali C approves this frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrewsbury Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) We don't see this frame as old school. To us this is the way forward. Trials has been made less accessible to the general public by the funky no saddle designs. Which is not a good thing - in our opinion.Too rite man. I dont mind all the new frames which are low and have different lenghts, but it can get really boring doing the same old trials move on them bikes, i like to ride a bike which you can do anything on.Most long bikes are gd for comps and natural riding , as there great on the back wheel and easy easy to sidehope.But i profer the short bike with a saddle, a bike which really roll's along and feels comfortble too and that it is a mountain bike.I belive when Ashton and Clive first made the 24inch's it was a start of something diffrent, people can choose between two diffrent tipes of riding or bikes now. And as you have seen Chris akrigg riding a bike which is a trials bike, doesnt need the low frame geo to make him ride better.I belive nick has got a gd idea for the future of frames. Edited June 15, 2006 by John Shrewsbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 well said, I agreeeven though I am pretty much a natrual rider, I dont really like all these long low bikes, I prefer my medium length steep head angle bike, it wouldnt bother me if it had a seat either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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