RatherGood Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I heard somewhere that XTR v-brakes are as good as maggies. If they are, or atleast almost as good I will probably buy some as I dont have magura mounts on my frame and I dont want disc brakes. So has anyone used both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 If set up correctly with good pads, then yes they can be as good as Maguras. As with all brakes, it's how you set them up that counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewannnn Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Alot of people prefer using V-brakes to maguras as they say it is less spongey when you have a sharp grind on your rim, coust pads and them well set up Felix Mucke, smoothest rider i have ever seen, uses v-brakes and they probably hold better than my magura's do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 felix is part antelope though..if you dont have dedicated 4-Bolt magura mounts, you can still use evolution mounts on your framealthough i'm sure the vee brake massive will be in here soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Wait till I get home and I'll show y'all v-brake power, even thought im a maggie man myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilman Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 I have ridden both brakes.I used to love maggies, until I tried a friends v brake setup.Now I have xtr v's, xt levers, and plaz crv pads. My brakes have never worked better. I will never go back to magura brakes again.Just get some sticky pads and a grind on your rim, and they will work better then you have ever felt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerdigger Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 i had a set of the xtrs on my old stock and they wear great brakes, i ran the full xtr set up including the standard pads. it is a tad harder to get identical lever feel compared with hs33s but then u dont have the worry of leaky hoses and seals. the hold was quality with stadard pads, and with a tiny bit of tar on smooth rims it was more then good anoth for my riding.considering there are plazmatic and coust pads out now i dont think there alot of difference in power and hold. but when it comes to service and the price of parts vs are the way foward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endohopper Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 It's a tragedy really that V-brakes are so often overlooked , especially when a setup like you suggested offers controllable stopping power and great modulation to rival any Magura setup . A bit of careful choice of pads and cabling , and some minimal maintenance leaves you with a fantastic brake , in many cases lighter than a pair of HS33s too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makrela Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I think v-brakes are good, but it is harder and more expensive to reach the power of a good magura setup with them. And the XTR v-brakes are also overpriced. Use instead avid v-brakes (because the evo mounts are shit), they are also as good as the xtr and much cheaper. And spend the remaining money on some quality cables and brake pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronicstyles Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 i ran maggies on a bike which was consequently stolen. they were really good, great response and feel. setting them up is a bytch though, especially on evo mounts. anyway they've gone and i am now running avid ultimates, they took a while to get used to but with the xtr levers they are 100% fantastic. basically i think you will get used to whatever it is you have fitted, decide, buy it, fit it, ride it. if your going to get v-brakes i would reccomend ultimates, they don't call them that for nothing you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) vee brakes are very good, but I would reckonmend not using xtr (or other parrellel push types) as the the linkage goes wobbly!avid ultimates are the best you can get, but the cheaper avid and deore are perfectly fine, also cane creek make quite a good one too nokon or odyessy cable is the way to go and plaz or heatsink for pads.maguras are good too, and you can use evo mounts to fit them on to frame with vee/canti mounts.mike Edited June 15, 2006 by leedstrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 vee brakes are very good, but I would reckonmend not using xtr (or other parrellel push types) as the the linkage goes wobbly!avid ultimates are the best you can get, but the cheaper avid and deore are perfectly fine, also cane creek make quite a good one too nokon or odyessy cable is the way to go and plaz or heatsink for pads.yaha parralell push is evil-steer clearthe sd7 is probably the best cheap v brake out, deores are very good to-for a tenner each you cant grumble!i adore my ultimates, they feel so lush, im not sure id recomend nokon cable so much now over linear slicks though, as mine have deteriated fast and the feel isnt as nice-and for the price its not really justifiable!lever choice is pretty essential, id only really ever recomend xtr or ultimate levers, as they are quite simply the nicest you can get, on a budget deores are fine, theres no point in getting anything inbetweenpads choice is essential too, upfront standard pads are fine, on the rear however beware of suing cartridge pads with the pins to hold the pad in, as these easily slip out run some good pads from the likes of plazmatic or heatsink (heatsink make the best v brake backings ever) and you will be laughing at all the kids with thier hs33s that they spend ages to set up and they still dont work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskimo Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 always depends on how you set it up. flex happens not just in the pads but on the frame as well. learn to tweek a break and you could run a xtr with some medium compound pads, greased cable and a ground rim with astonishing power. just have a play with it one night in the shed with the music blasting so you cant hear the rain outside! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 greased cableNEVER grease a cable, ALWAYS oil itthe grease goes all dry and skanky and the cables get heavy and feel nasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtbjosh Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 yes vbrakes are amazing actually, but if you are a clown who throws them onto your bike without care, you will hate the hell out of it. you need to know how to set it up properly with correct pads etc. on my base i ran an XT with avid speeddial levers it was soo smooth and easy on the wrists, i loved it. but since i got a new frame due to snappage of the base i moved to a four bolt frame and was more or less forced to my old maggie with me being lazy and not bothereing about some adaptors for it. but idealy in my opinion a maggie is easier to gain better performance BUT the vee is a much lighter option and better in the long run - just simpler its up to you, have a go on somebodies vee set up and have a ponder if your getting one, but EVO adaptors for maggies are poo n flex the frame like crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashby-trials Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 thats a load of b*ll*cks avids are the best v-brake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTF Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 if they're setup right, and you have some good pads (heatsink, like those who Felix Mucke is using) they're better than maggiesi have maggies now, but i'm stongly considering to get myself some xtr vee's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatherGood Posted June 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Thanks for all the replies, helped alot. I will steer clear of the parallel push v-brakes and I already have some shimano xt levers a friend gave to me so I'll be using those. I think I will aslo *attempt* grind my rim soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollocks Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 (edited) when i used to ride i ran xtr v's with avid levers and i thought they were assume even compared to when i got a hope c2 with a wavey disc and green pads on the back the hope was better but the v's still weren't a bad brake setup Edited June 17, 2006 by pollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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