ding_dong Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 right here's my attempt.first of all are you running the FW on the front or on the rear?tensile have produced two FW on with the threads in the lockring to tighten them selves on the front and the threads are the other way round on the rear version, so that it also tightens itself up. As far as i am aware only the FW for the front is available, so if you have purchaced the FW for the front and running it on the rear wheel of your bike then it's the same principal as the ACS undoing its self due to the outer body turing the same way that you turn the lockring to undo it (where as the tensile, the outer body turns anti-clockwise, and to undo the lockring you need to turn it clockwise, or maby vice-versa, but you get the idea, they go oposite ways). so if you are running a FW thats made for the front on the back then the body and the lockring threads are going the same way, thus meaning its undoing its self, like an ACS does on the front. That would also be the same if you are running a FW made for the rear, on the front, like you do when you use an ACS.There I hoep I have helped a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 tighten it, weld the f**ker shut.i think onzaboymark owes me an apology if all the tensiles start coming loose Basically, whichever way the lockring turns to unscrew, it will always come loose whilst riding trials as there are forces going both ways.you've hit the nail on the head, thats why welding the thing shut is the right thing to do either that or use glue so that it can be taken apart at a later date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Flood the thread with Loctite 270, that should lock it forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 get a king or a profile Agreed what ever anyone says you cannot beat a king or profile.No hassle of tightening them upor getting your trousers caught every 2 mins lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 This whole freewheel business is just silly. They could think of some locks or something, or insert a cartridge bearing and then nothing would come loose (as in the ENO).ACS unscrews clockwise, which means that when you're pedaling forwards, the freewheel is tightening itself - but it's only the ball bearings which tighten it, because that's the only moving element resting on the cap. Despite that, it still unscrews because in trials you have the freewheel bearings spinning in both directions, for instance, before you pedalkick. Tensile have "thought about it" and made two thread options (front and rear), but isn't it a marketing gimmick? I mean it's still the same as the ACS and ENO if you have it on the cranks? Why should the worlds' two most popular freewheel manufacturers (being WI and ACS) make the threads the wrong way round?edit: for instance, couldn't they make a shallow rachet on the outside of the cap and have some thin pawls lock it? And when you want to unscrew, you just bend the pawls away. Yeah, pretty stupid and complicated It's late.I sort of get that...Where the f**ks Onzabimark when you need him?So basicly, becuase we padal click in trials, the cranks go back and forth, so it dosn't matter which was the lockring threds on, it's still going to come loose?Mabe the try-all idea is the way to go then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Everyone go and have a look at their freewheels...Lift rear wheel off floor as spin is slowly so you can see the freewheel spining slowly...Then stop the wheel, and pull crank up asif your doing some pedals hops...the lockring ALWAYS spins ACW, because the freewheel engages as soon as it trys to go CW... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 So basicly, becuase we padal click in trials, the cranks go back and forth, so it dosn't matter which was the lockring threds on, it's still going to come loose?Most of the time you're pedaling fowards, so that kind of counterbalances pedaling backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Most of the time you're pedaling fowards, so that kind of counterbalances pedaling backwards.eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Most of the time you're pedaling fowards, so that kind of counterbalances pedaling backwards.i think he means when you ride to spots and do wheelie hopes e.t.c. thats enough of the cranks turning one way to counted balence the mini bit where you turn your cranks backwards????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 i think he means when you ride to spots and do wheelie hopes e.t.c. thats enough of the cranks turning one way to counted balence the mini bit where you turn your cranks backwards?????Oh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 That's what I mean, sorry :$ I'm a bit tired lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 (edited) odd marks has never ever come loose. he's had tight chains, loose chains etc.as far as i know he hasnt opened it in the time he's had it.might be somthing you've done to it to make it untighten (not saying you have, just that its well odd) Edited June 5, 2006 by mat hudson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endofreak Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 The lockring shouldn't loosen when pedalling forwards. I'm not great at explaining these things in writing. When you pedal forwards the entire freewheel will be rotating in the same direction but when you freewheel the inner part of the freewheel is being held still while the outside rotates, thus loosening the lockring. So if the lockring on tensile freewheels is threaded in the opposite direction to normal freewheels it shouldn't come loose. Sounds a bit odd to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 The lockring shouldn't loosen when pedalling forwards. I'm not great at explaining these things in writing. When you pedal forwards the entire freewheel will be rotating in the same direction but when you freewheel the inner part of the freewheel is being held still while the outside rotates, thus loosening the lockring. So if the lockring on tensile freewheels is threaded in the opposite direction to normal freewheels it shouldn't come loose. Sounds a bit odd to me.Exactly what i was trying to say!It even loosened off when i went to meet louise (like 300 metres from my house...) then i "hand tightened" it, and then walked back to my house (again... 300 metres) and it was loose by the time i got back...I havnt opened it or ANYTHING, i havnt done anything apart from put it on, and ride with it...Im going to put the tiniest amount of weld on tommorow after i have cleaned it and regreased it!Does anyone know what grease to use?Sprayable white teflon grease any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaXsteri Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Anything thats not too thick i think. Phone Supercycles and complain. See what they say, and then maybe consider a permanent solution such as welding. Otherwise it will just fall apart and end up f**ked like mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Anything thats not too thick i think. Phone Supercycles and complain. See what they say, and then maybe consider a permanent solution such as welding. Otherwise it will just fall apart and end up f**ked like mine I e-mailed them yesterday, but seeing as "their internet sever is a twat" (yeah right ) then they NEVER e-mail back..Il just ferking weld it Or maybe a tiny bit of araldite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Phone them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Phone them?Meh.Just serviced and welded it, jobs a gun'un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 The lockring shouldn't loosen when pedalling forwards. I'm not great at explaining these things in writing. When you pedal forwards the entire freewheel will be rotating in the same direction but when you freewheel the inner part of the freewheel is being held still while the outside rotates, thus loosening the lockring. So if the lockring on tensile freewheels is threaded in the opposite direction to normal freewheels it shouldn't come loose. You should become a teacher its all as clear as tango now, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 every dog has its day..................................................... I LOVE TF!!!! looks like Try-All do have it sorted with the lockring being AGAINST the crank?back to the topic anyway il help you. but the first few posts/pages have made my day The freewheel on an ACS to tighten you put a "screwdriver" tip in and pedal the crank backwards. IF you have to do this to the Tensile freewheel you have got a "rear" type freewheel. ?IF you have to tighten the "hole" with the screwdriver "CLOCKWISE" therefore pushing on the freewheel in theory pedalling the cranks forward with the screwdriver in the hole (you owuld have a front design freewheel)But like JT has said the try-all one looks to have the technology edge. i havent seen one or owt yet BUT if the lockring is on the inside "closest to the crankarm" it cant come loose "hopefully"Waynio........................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 So tensile bring out these freewheels which are supposed to not loosen themselves, and two of them have, have either of you not demended a replacement or sent them back to supercycles to have them looked at?I wouldn't be happy spending money on a freewheel which was not ment to loosen only to have to take it apart and weld it, your kinda only getting half the deal there or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waynio Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 it might just be a couple that are in correct. obviously it shouldnt happen but it has. if it sonly 2 out of 100 thats 2% or shall we wait for the number to rise? who knows.im sure if you "Thread lock" it it should be ok????Waynio...................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 But the thing is, IF my freewheel came loose alot, which mine doesnt, i'd primarily be buying it for the fact that it does not come loose. Having to locktite it because the reverse thread doesnt work as intended just isn't right.My two main reason for buying one would be that they don't loosen, and they have more EP's than what I have at the moment, if it started to loosen, id be debating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Im fairly certain there is nothing wrong with them in essence. Waynes was definitly working how it should, except that it came undone. It must be something about how they ride, maybe the ride along way before getting to a spot they want to ride, or they pedal backwards alot. Either way, OBM's didnt do it, so how could onza have known? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tipsy Jock Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 But like JT has said the try-all one looks to have the technology edge. i havent seen one or owt yet BUT if the lockring is on the inside "closest to the crankarm" it cant come loose "hopefully"Waynio...........................What happens when the bearings wear and you have to tighten the lockring but can't cause theres a fooking great crank arm in the way? i haven't really read either of the topics so i'm probably either stating the obvious or completly wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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