downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 (edited) What the ferk....I was riding today... and my freewheel lockring came loose.So i tightened it, but i had to tighten it in the same direction as an ACS, so the lockring had to turn clockwise to tighten... the same as an ACS so when i was freewheeling, the lockring came loose...What the hells going on there? Edited June 4, 2006 by terror-error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 i heard that if you shave your armpits, the tensile freewheels within 25m of the armpit shaver loosen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 (edited) Could supercycles/tarty/whoeveryougotitfrom have axcidentally sent you a rear freewheel? (mixed batch maybe?) that would be the logical thing...Just re read some of your post, my mates did that so if he locked his brakes and stood on whichever pedal was forward it would turn around is that what yours did? Edited June 4, 2006 by ogre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 What the ferk....I was riding today... and my freewheel lockring came loose.So i tightened it, but i had to tighten it in the same direction as an ACS, so the lockring had to turn clockwise to tighten... the same as an ACS so when i was freewheeling, the lockring came loose...What the hells going on there?to tighten the ACS you need to turn anti-clockwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaXsteri Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Phone Supercycles and complain They way they are more likely to realize that i am telling the truth when they receive mine on Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 to tighten the ACS you need to turn anti-clockwise.No you dont Do you?The tensile is loosening the exact same way as the ACS did...i heard that if you shave your armpits, the tensile freewheels within 25m of the armpit shaver loosen!Twat hahahahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janson Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Yeah you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Yeah you do., but if you had to turn it anti-clockwise, then the freewheel would tighten the lockring when it spins... not loosens it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Which is the whole idea. But you must have a duff one. Refund or replace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Which is the whole idea. But you must have a duff one. Refund or replace!I was reffering that last post to an ACS... To tighten the Tensile, i had to do it clockwise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Ok, well i'm confused. Freewheel's conventionally loosen clockwise, so the tensile tightens clockwise so it doesn't fall apart. If its loosening, then the threads must be the standard way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Ok..When a freewheel spins, it spins anti-clickwise (depending on which side you look at the freewheel) we are looking at the side which the lockring is on.. so its spinning anti-clickwise...When i tightened the lockring, i had to turn it clockwise, for it to tighten... so, when the freewheel was spinning ACW it was loosinging the freewheel, which loosened if i turned it ACW... If you get me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 (edited) I get you, but thats not what happens on normal freewheels. The outer coggy bit spins anti clockwise, but the lockring doesnt, meaning it comes loose somehow. Obviously, the tensile is different, so that as you freewheel, the lockring turns anti clockwise. Edit: This wasnt intended by onza obviously as it loosens whilst riding.Maybe onza have gone out of the frying pan and onto the fire with this design, in that it now still loosens, just a different direction. Edited June 4, 2006 by Hobnobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Wheres the "wtf" smilie on this forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 You dont really get me here lolits fairly hard to explain without you being here with me.. lolTommorow after my exams, im gonna look at my old ACS and the Tensile to see if the lockrings pin the same direction, if they do, im sueing If they dont, ferk knows whats happeneing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Sigh, its late. I thought i understood what your saying. The ACS lockring tightens anti clockwise, and the tensile goes clockwise. Yes? And you are saying the ACS goes clockwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaXsteri Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Wheres the "wtf" smilie on this forum?^ DittoWhat are you talking about? Looking at it from lockring side. Freewheel spins freely anticlockwise. Lockring spins clockwise to tighten. Which would mean all the time all the time you are pedalling the lockring is tightening.That is what is supposed to happen in the design. That is what happens with your Tensile. And that is what happens with my Tensile.Where did the lockring clockwise to loosen idea come from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 (edited) Ok, so my first post was wrong, but the rest were fine... Edited June 4, 2006 by Hobnobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.McMillan Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Buy the white industries ENO, who cares about the price, far better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 (edited) This whole freewheel business is just silly. They could think of some locks or something, or insert a cartridge bearing and then nothing would come loose (as in the ENO).ACS unscrews clockwise, which means that when you're pedaling forwards, the freewheel is tightening itself - but it's only the ball bearings which tighten it, because that's the only moving element resting on the cap. Despite that, it still unscrews because in trials you have the freewheel bearings spinning in both directions, for instance, before you pedalkick. Tensile have "thought about it" and made two thread options (front and rear), but isn't it a marketing gimmick? I mean it's still the same as the ACS and ENO if you have it on the cranks? Why should the worlds' two most popular freewheel manufacturers (being WI and ACS) make the threads the wrong way round?edit: for instance, couldn't they make a shallow rachet on the outside of the cap and have some thin pawls lock it? And when you want to unscrew, you just bend the pawls away. Yeah, pretty stupid and complicated It's late. Edited June 4, 2006 by Inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Kearns Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 This whole freewheel business is just silly. They could think of some locks or something, or insert a cartridge bearing and then nothing would come loose (as in the ENO).ACS unscrews clockwise, which means that when you're pedaling forwards, the freewheel is tightening itself - but it's only the ball bearings which tighten it, because that's the only moving element resting on the cap. Despite that, it still unscrews because in trials you have the freewheel bearings spinning in both directions, for instance, before you pedalkick. Tensile have "thought about it" and made two thread options (front and rear), but isn't it a marketing gimmick? I mean it's still the same as the ACS and ENO if you have it on the cranks? Why should the worlds' two most popular freewheel manufacturers (being WI and ACS) make the threads the wrong way round?edit: for instance, couldn't they make a shallow rachet on the outside of the cap and have some thin pawls lock it? And when you want to unscrew, you just bend the pawls away. Yeah, pretty stupid and complicated It's late.That has completly and totaly confused me. some one please expalin that in a simpler form.Cheers ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Why should the worlds' two most popular freewheel manufacturers (being WI and ACS) make the threads the wrong way round?they havent , there bmx freewheels which screw on to the threads on the rear hub, in which case they are correct.trials they go on the front thus loosening themthere a good design we just mis use them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 get a king or a profile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted June 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 If the lockring tightens clockwise (normal threads [like on a bottletop]) then, then your freewheeling along, when the freewheel outer body (with spikes on) is spinning anti-clickwise, the way that the threads on te lockring loosen... then the outer body will spin the lockring loose...Thats what is happening on mine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 (edited) Basically, whichever way the lockring turns to unscrew, it will always come loose whilst riding trials as there are forces going both ways. Edited June 5, 2006 by Hobnobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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