Sam Nugent Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I have searched but can't find the exact details of what i'm looking for.At the moment I ride a Monty 221 and the wheelbase is 1000. I feel it is very short and am looking to possibly change it soon. I am deffo going to stick to mod though.What are the pros and cons of a longer bike?Also what are the pros and cons of a short bike just out of interest?Cheers,Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Short bikes have the tendancy to be able to be bunny hopped easier due to you not having to pull a MASSIVE chunk of metal up and the geometry is diffrent on a short bike, making it easier to pull up to buny hope and the alike...Longer bikes are harder to flick around, but you have the advantage of being able to gap a tiny bit better due to good leverage on the bike... and same with side hopping...Get a longer bike in other words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nugent Posted May 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Short bikes have the tendancy to be able to be bunny hopped easier due to you not having to pull a MASSIVE chunk of metal up and the geometry is diffrent on a short bike, making it easier to pull up to buny hope and the alike...Longer bikes are harder to flick around, but you have the advantage of being able to gap a tiny bit better due to good leverage on the bike... and same with side hopping...Get a longer bike in other words Would that mean longer bikes are generally easier to backwheel things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Yes very easy woo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I think personally, its mostly lies. Chain stay length makes the most difference in terms of leverage, so a long bike with short stays will only be good for a tall rider.The reason the python is good for gaps etc is the long stays. Not just because it is long. Choose from frames with long stays if you want lots of leverage, or short stays if you want it to be flickable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Short bikes have the tendancy to be able to be bunny hopped easier due to you not having to pull a MASSIVE chunk of metal up This is actually because you can shift the body weight further backwards as your bars are not that far away Well, I don't like long bikes in general, but front wheel ups are a bit easier, so are pedalkicks but that's about it. And the riding position is more sound for the body yet if you get used to any bike it won't make a difference.Don't get anything over 1015mm or you might find it won't suit you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Don't get anything over 1015mm or you might find it won't suit you.I preffer anything over 1015mm suits me, anything under.... doesnt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.E.A.U Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Short bikes have the tendancy to be able to be bunny hopped easier due to you not having to pull a MASSIVE chunk of metal up and the geometry is diffrent on a short bike, making it easier to pull up to buny hope and the alike...Longer bikes are harder to flick around, but you have the advantage of being able to gap a tiny bit better due to good leverage on the bike... and same with side hopping...Get a longer bike in other words I don't think thats true. ( could be not to me anyways) i went from a 1090 toxsin the other week to a 1065 zoo pitbull and it feels so much better to gap i have more control. I was gapping 7.2 ft like a walk in the par. not my biggest biggest is 8.2 ( yes ill try it on a zoo) and i feel more on the bike than the toxsin. Also i sidehop allot higher on it. It feels lighter and i feel like i was struggling on the toxsin. Not to sure about taps yet. Also i can front to back my do higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 I think its the chainstays to be honest but not sure Longer bikes make bridging easier.... as well as pigeons lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nugent Posted June 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 I think its the chainstays to be honest but not sure Longer bikes make bridging easier.... as well as pigeons lolHow do I find out how long my chainstays are? Where to I measure from and to? Or is there a site I can find out from? oh my god it's like 20 questions lol. don't think thats true. ( could be not to me anyways) i went from a 1090 toxsin the other week to a 1065 zoo pitbull and it feels so much better to gap i have more control. I was gapping 7.2 ft like a walk in the par. not my biggest biggest is 8.2 ( yes ill try it on a zoo) and i feel more on the bike than the toxsin. Also i sidehop allot higher on it. It feels lighter and i feel like i was struggling on the toxsin. Not to sure about taps yet. Also i can front to back my do higher. Yeah, but that's going from a very long bike, to another long bike (which is still quite a bit shorter though). I would be changing from a very short bike to a longer bike. But I suppose it still says that around that area (from 1030 - 1065) seem to be the business for that kind of riding. I may be looking at something like the long echo team or something like that. Maybe an Aorta. Or one from IOLO possibly. I wonder how the Aorta rides though, being only 1010 and having a +60 BB rise? However it has 363mm chainstays hich are quite a good length I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synergy Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 i feel longer bikes are better for streety stuff but when it comes to natural rocks short bikes are the better choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nugent Posted June 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 i feel longer bikes are better for streety stuff but when it comes to natural rocks short bikes are the better choice.That's good than 'cos I only ride street don't really like natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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