scazz Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Hi guys I've been doing the old dirt scene, last year. Purchased a *very* crappy jump-style bike, and went dirt jumping at local jumps, before they were bulldozed. Summer again, and I'm getting back into riding now the jumps are being rebuilt, however I've started messing around with trials and am loving it. I've broken (completely) my crappy bike and need a new one. What are the advantages of getting a trials specific bike, over getting a nice new jump bike and trying to ride trials on it without a saddle? Bare in mind, I'm not assume - can kinda back-hop 3 or 4 times, and bunny hop about a ft 1/2, but not much else yet and I live in the country side with lots of d/h trails stuff, so a jump bike with 26" wheels and gears was the obvious choice. If I was to buy a trials specific bike, how much would that help my trials riding (I'm enjoying it more than dirt, but it kind of limits my options and if I can get away with bouncing around on a dirt bike, I would)? What about buying a nice heavy dirt jump and keeping some spare 20" wheels and light weight forks? Budget is around 500 (could go more, but don't really want to). Cheers Scazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramps Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Mabee get a short trials bike, planet x, onza woodstock etc, so can still do a bit of jumping on it, but the benifits of a trials bike is quite hard to list there are soo many of them, but have fun what ever you stick with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Kearney Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 The geometry is quite diffeent but you can use a dj bike for street riding like I sometimes use my Specialized P1, just stick a bashguard on it and away you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasthetrialsrider Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I would buy some thing that was a jump/trials 26" bike and when you want to ride trials on it change the gearing ratios and stuff. But I would recommend getting a bike with a hs33 on the back and one on the front, or a disk on the front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffacakes Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 (edited) If you wan't to go 20" get 'yo self a Onza T-pro for £420 then since your rims will be smooth get 2 sets of zoo pad's (which are about £20 a set) And you will have yourself a pretty nice bike T-proIf you wan't to go stock (26") your best bet is to look around the "for sale and wanted section" or maby get a onza T-rex.T-Rex Edited May 31, 2006 by Jaffacakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammmy Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 scazz i used to ride dirt alot on my hardtail, but i whacked a bashguard over the middle ring which allowed me to ride abit of trials and give it ago.. but it was only when i rode a trials specific bike i realised just how different it was, the shape, weight and manouverability (if thats how you spell it ) good luck with what you decide though!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 get a short stock, short stem it up and ride! my curtis with a tioga cube stem felt like it would have been reet for dirt jumping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m60_maniac Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 my first bikes a saracen mad 2.6 and the geometry is great. a few upgrades and away i go. you could go for a saracen exile as they can be used for jump ad trials by changing the forks. my mate has an exile and it works great as a trials and jump bike. the frames shape is the same as the x-ray but unlike the steel xray its made of aluminium. makes it lighter by loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 I don't really know a lot about trials vs. dirt jump, but I've used my Base TA26 for dirt jumping and it felt pretty good. Perhaps look into one of those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willdasexybeast Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 i would stick to a dirt jumpo bike just make sure you get one that is reasonably light and has a bash gaurd. plus i would have a hs33 on the back and a disk on the front for the best of both worlds. then all you have 2 do is lower your seat and away you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 The bases are quite good jump bikes with a set of suspension forks in, and you can ride trials with suspension so that could be an option as well. Other than that i'd say look for a frame that has a roughly level bottom bracket, as when you try to do trials on some bikes like my mates 24seven the bottom bracket is lower and it actually does hinder your riding. He still does it anyway though rear disc.. no front brake... suspension forks... 32th chainring and he can peddle hop and tap it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride or die Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 (edited) I would get a T-pro , Great starter bike I think there like £400 now?.With the extra money spare maybe get a ENO freeweheel Then you will have maybe £20 left overChoice is all you'res Thanks,Dave Edited June 4, 2006 by Ride or die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scazz Posted June 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Cheers for the quick responses - thanks a lot. Just to let you know, I'm going with a second hand onza for 140 and spending 350 on a mountain/jump bike, again second hand on the grounds that I can still cycle up hills, and if I decide that a 20" bike rocks hard, then I can see the MTB without loosing much cash and buy a nicer trials bike. Thanks again for all the replies Scazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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