Tensile Freewheels.

[mat hudson]

i liked the way marks felt like an eno in terms of stiffness and no play etc.

[Mark W]

Yeah, the lockring stability did surprise me quite a lot. Probably 'cos it's tightening itself all the time (until it stops, obviously), so you don't get any tiny amount of driveshell wobble at all. All the better for keeping pawls alive too, so yeah, kudos...

In fairness as well, engagement wise it felt like an Eno. I couldn't tell the difference between 60 and 72 clicks, but there we go, no doubt some people will find they simply can't live without the extra 12

[Walleee]

Yeh, I think someone worked out how many degrees between each engagement point, I remember the differance in the ENO and the Tensile being something like a few degrees, I'd really like to give this one a go but might be tempted to hold out for the try all one if it's up to the usual koxx standard and not priced over £50.

[mat hudson]

if you think about it, once you get over 60 theres no real difference, in that unless you have perfect tension on your chain it'll make the engagement feel slow anyway.

[Mark W]

Yeh, I think someone worked out how many degrees between each engagement point, I remember the differance in the ENO and the Tensile being something like a few degrees, I'd really like to give this one a go but might be tempted to hold out for the try all one if it's up to the usual koxx standard and not priced over £50.

Assuming you were unlucky enough to kick exactly at the instant that the pawl clicked onto the next start of a ratchet (how many times is that *ever* going to happen?), you'd have a difference of 1.7° movement between using an Eno or a Try-All before it clicked to the next engagement point (5° for an Eno and 3.3° for a Try-All). By the time it's moved down the ratchet slightly (moving from one point to another), it's going to have narrowed the gaps between the two freewheels. In that that's a tiny gap to begin with, it seriously won't make any difference. Like I said - I went from an Eno to a Tensile (1° difference), and didn't feel it at all. I doubt the extra .7° is going to make any difference at all. Like Mat said, if you're getting that tech, you'd better start going round with a tension-o-meter to check how taut your chain is so you're not losing that extra thousandth of a second between each click...

Not having a go there or anything, but that's all there is to the difference basically. The only time it'd matter would really be going for a gap or something, and if you're going to do a gap, you're probably going to do it whether you've got 60, 72, 108 or 301803958109580 engagement points realistically. If you're preloading properly, there shouldn't really be much difference at all.

I can't imagine that the Try-All would ever be below £50, but you never know I guess.

[downhill_rob2@hotmail.com]

Just ordered mine

[Greetings]

60 engagement points; 2 sets of 3 pawls (same pawl arrangement as an Eno).

Tartybikes web:

- Engagement is taken care of by three sets of two pawls, and these engage into a hardened chromoly 20 tooth ratchet (similar to an ACS Claws) to give 60 clicks.

So do three pawls engage at once or two?

[Danny]

So do three pawls engage at once or two?

"three sets of two pawls"

[downhill_rob2@hotmail.com]

ordered last night at around 11pm, from supercycles, do you think it will be here for tommorow?

should be... hopefully, i NEED it by sunday

[T-BAD]

ordered last night at around 11pm, from supercycles, do you think it will be here for tommorow?

should be... hopefully, i NEED it by sunday

they'll post it today, so it 'could' be with you tommorow, defo monday

[downhill_rob2@hotmail.com]

they'll post it today, so it 'better' be with you tommorow, defo monday

Thats better

[MaXsteri]

Personally i would expect anything from anyone on a Saturday as Royal Mail are useless, should be Monday

Going off topic but still relevent, I know a lot of people bash supercycles. But i have never had anything except excellent service from them

[AdamR28]

So do three pawls engage at once or two?

Two, as per our description. I took one apart to check

[Waynio]

the try-all one is same lock ring thread as this one. someone above was asking. so it doesnt unscrew as "bikestuffatonza" have said same stuff just more beanz in the can.

Waynio.........................

[downhill_rob2@hotmail.com]

I know a lot of people bash supercycles. But i have never had anything except excellent service from them

Same here!

I would have ordered it from TB, but their online ordering is bloody awefull!!

[JT!]

I would have ordered it from TB, but their online ordering is bloody awefull!!

How'd you figure?

Supercycles don't accept solo aswell.

Edited May 12, 2006 by JT!

[Robwalker]

Ring up then send cast/postal order in post, its the most easiest and safeest way ive use. Always helpful on the phone aswel.

Rob

[JT!]

Ring up then send cast/postal order in post, its the most easiest and safeest way ive use. Always helpful on the phone aswel.

Yeah, but i can't be botherd. They do accept solo over the phone so why not on the site?

[Ben Geary]

They looks swish and for what the price they are you can't go wrong at all.

[joe b]

This should prove to be a very good component. I really think they will have done themselves proud for this. There seems to have been so much testing and prototyping to these. I remember when Supercycles first advertised them in an MBUK issue back in early 2004.

If i ran a freehweel i'd buy one, because the price is reasonable. Too bad i dont though, hehe.

Cheers,

Joe.

Edited May 12, 2006 by joe b

[downhill_rob2@hotmail.com]

still isnt here but theres a little bit more time... it better come, i wanna ride tommorow

[Mark W]

the try-all one is same lock ring thread as this one. someone above was asking. so it doesnt unscrew as "bikestuffatonza" have said

But the Try-All wouldn't unscrew anyway? Fred said the lockring is on the outside edge of the freewheel (as in next ot the crank arm itself), so it'd have to unscrew the freewheel off the crank arm to come loose, which just isn't going to happen, is it?

[tank_rider]

Ad, any chance of a pic of the internals?? Am interested to see how they compare to an eno and acs.

[downhill_rob2@hotmail.com]

Ad, any chance of a pic of the internals?? Am interested to see how they compare to an eno and acs.

Ditto

[Mark W]

I'm guessing quite a bit different to an Eno, just 'cos of the mad high level of machining on the Eno bodies, although I may be pleasantly surprised

I've never taken any of the ones I've had apart, so I'm not too much help though. I've got a brand new older model here on my windowsill though so if Ad can't be arsed I can manhandle mine apart...