Mr Motivator Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 "I am an engineer" ?I am SICK of people associating me with car mechanics!I don't think engineers are as well valued in the UK as they are in the rest of europe. In many other EU contries, us engineers are considered as well ranked as a doctor or a surgeon.Any others think the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 id rather have the skill's of a car mechanic than an engineer though, at least they have a practical use . . im Training to be an engineer, would class my self as one until i was fully trained though.to be fair though its not as good as i thought it would be, very repetetive at my place anyway, but its all mass production atm so, cant not expect it . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trials_pimp Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 its all depends on who you talk to.Me, I would ask what feild of engineering.Im used to it, as a few of my mates are engineers, and im a mechanic.But be warned, engineers have been voted the most boring people alove, so dont talk about it to 2ordananry" people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted April 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 (edited) But be warned, engineers have been voted the most boring people alove, so dont talk about it to 2ordananry" people.Mmhmm, but a survey has also revealed that engineers enjoy their job the most. Edited April 27, 2006 by member1495 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitbat Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 bob the builder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 (edited) I don't think engineers are as well valued in the UK as they are in the rest of europe. In many other EU contries, us engineers are considered as well ranked as a doctor or a surgeon. Well, are they valued? They are over here. The only difference between the Polish engineer and British one are the qualifications. I can't speak for myself because I was way too young at the time but I remember my dad complaining he had to spend 10 grand on restoration of his MGA in the UK in the late 80's and that it was the shittiest work he ever payed for in his life. Having finished uni himself (car engineering) he was constantly complaining about how British engineers lack skill, thought, yet charge for their work as they were diamond cutters. Maybe the reason you (engineers) are less valued is because it takes no qualifications to go into business (I know this is true) and you constantly f***k the work up? This is not just one case, my cousins are in the car restoration business and have started sending cars over to us to get them restored because the mechanics over in Britain just cant handle basic tasks. Your probably thinking: another twit who thinks an engineer is a car mechanic. Of course not only, but a car mechanic is an engineer. And that's the only experience I've had/heard of that is of any relevance to this topic. If I need anything doing to my bike that isn't standard, I give it to my turner. He hasn't f**ked up a job not once and it was always 101% perfect. These guys know their job so well it's just shocking. Until I actually needed some screws for my hub and watched how he was doing them I thought working on a lathe (and other machines I can't translate into english) is just about turning knobs. And as an example he showed me one of his thick books about threads. I was stoked at how precise a thread is and how many things you need to take into consideration. He didn't have a tool for cutting imperial threads so he just made one in a few minutes. It'd probably take me a few hours to make one with such precision.edit: this is not an insult, it's just past experience so don't attack me for what I've written. Edited April 27, 2006 by Inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted April 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Your probably thinking: another twit who thinks an engineer is a car mechanic. Of course not only, but a car mechanic is an engineer. And that's the only experience I've had/heard of that is of any relevance to this topic. Mechanical Engineering is different from Mechanics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Mechanical Engineering is different from Mechanics if so I'm sorry, in polish these terms are interchangeable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spode@thinkbikes Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 (edited) I think people get that with many jobs. Titles are strange things and can be very misleading.I hate telling people I'm a journalist because they assume I write about politics. And then if I tell them I write for a computer magazines/websites, they assume I write about computer games. I would personally consider a mechanic and an engineer to be quite different things. Edited April 27, 2006 by Spode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Papasnap Maher Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 LOL, the 1st thing that came to my head is " Gayboy "Dont ask me why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbra Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 the first thing that came into my head was "whats the first thing thats going to come into my head" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 i thought..."so am I"...actually doing materials engineering..which is clearly much more "sciency" than alot of engineering, but still somehow get confused as a car mechanic too...ah well...revising for exams really does make you think about your degree...and whether you like it....(pleased to say i do...)weeeeadam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 but sam , you're also 16, so people will be jumping to conclusions as most self prolaimed 16 year old engineers are actually motor mechanics who like to fib.you are studying a btec in engineering , you aint an engineer brutha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickycoleman Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 First thing that comes into my mind is someone sitting on a computer in a white coat,Using some sort of 3D designing software.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Harrison Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I would think "man with big spanner". But then, the word engineer is in my job title, even though I don't have a big spanner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Campbell Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 dilbert......different field though i imagine.Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-man Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Well i've almost finished my 2nd year in manufacturing engineering and no way would I call myself an engineer yet!!Gotta do degrees etc for that lol.I will be classed as a technican apparently when ive done.We dont call them mechanics anyway, theyre monkeys to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Wood Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I thought of bridges?Seems as though everyone in trials is an engineer of some sort, especially in Hamerica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Bridges and building the eifell tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 "I am an engineer" ?I pictured a big spanner. he hethe first thing that came into my head was "whats the first thing thats going to come into my head" Wow, Isn't that strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbra Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I pictured a big spanner. he he Wow, Isn't that strange puzzled me too I came back on and the first thing i thought was i'm doing BTEC Engineering at school...its the one subject i'm passing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 i was sat in a geotechnics lecture 2 days ago and was thinking about something along this kind of line. I was thinking about how like... ignorant? nah.. like oblivious people are to engineering and many other things infact. Like when people think of building a house they just think about yeap stick some walls on the ground and a roof and its sorted. Whilst im actually doing a degree in civil engineering and that lecture was talking about settlement of foundations, change in pore water pressures if you rip trees out the ground near a building. How foundations are built under water and how the soil changes over time due to consolidation. Stuff like that... its amazing to be honest how little the average person actually knows about anything.It led me on to randomly thinking about the central locking in my car.. i walk up to it.. press the key fob.. and it opens. Id never thought about how it actually works. Not " button press.. signal goes to car.. car opens door" im talking about the actual programming behind it to get it to work like that.. some one has thought it up and designed something that we take literally for granted. Sat for hours trying to work the f**ker out.... thats not just "button pushing" as some people like to brand jobs nowadays. Thats proper brain work..If only more of us watched discovery channel *sigh*....( Talking of discovery channel.. there was a marthon over easter of a program called "how it works" .. dear god what a eye opener that is! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Well, a little off topic...kind of...well, not really...just shut up and read.Mechanics aren't even mechanics in my opinion, its like ever other trade now thats been taken over by c**ts. Builders, its become the trade of tossers. I wouldn't mind doing it, but I'd be stuck with some idiot that has shit for brains and is generally a mong.In my eyes, being a mechanic is being able to identify a problem, the cause and the solution. Now what to mechanics do...'ah, its not working'...plug into computer...replace the part.This comes from working on trials bikes for about 12 years (obviously, I didn't do it at a very young age, more like learning from my dad) and I really wanted to be a mechanic when I grew up but it was just impossible. I joined the ReMit thing...c**ts...and they tried to get me a job working for Harley Davidson, but looking into the work envolved it was just a waste of time, so I changed my mind on the whole thing.By the way, some may say I have a sterotypical view of brickies and mechanics...but between me and you, I dont care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spode@thinkbikes Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 There are cowboys everywhere. The amount of SHOCKING coders out there getting paid decent money. There's also a lot of journalists who really haven't got a clue.My approach to anyone and everyone is - idiot until proven otherwise. It's a really pessimistic approach, but it works. The world is full of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMike Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 I thought of ridiculous looking plastic glasses and a blowtorch...I'm so inventive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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