24"

[psychologist]

Hey guys well im still looking at getting my new frame, quite possibly a leeson or the new 24uk.

Anyway, ive seen the 24" scene on here is getting bigger and bigger and was just wondering if people could post the spec of thier 24" up?

This will be my first proper trials bike so I want to see what are the best components for instance tyres and rims.

Thanks alot in advance.

[Caleb]

heatsinkbikes have a few specs up if people's 24 uk's

[Heatsink]

Here are some 24UK specs:

^ Caleb's (Blackpool, UK): "Against the Rocks"

Frame: Heatsink 24UK

Fork: Echo urban stock forks sprayed black

Headset:Chris King, blue

Stem: Easton Vice 90 mm by 15 deg rise.

Bar: Azonic 2.5" risers cut to 25-26 inches long

Cranks: 175 mm isis Middleburns with Leeson milled bash

Chain: KMC Kool

Rear mech: Shimano 105

Front Wheel: Hope xc green front hub on Sun Single Track black disc rim with DMR Moto Digger front tyre

Rear Wheel: Chris King rear Hub, green, on Tioga DH rim with Maxxis maxx pro Minion 2.7" tyre.

Front Brake: Hope mini 205 rotor front disc

Rear Brake: HS33 + Koolstops

Seat/post: Random seat post, Tioga MC Flite seat, v good and v cheap.

Seat clamp: Random 34.9mm clamp

BB: ??

Grips: ??

^ Steve's, (Cambridge, UK): "Skate Park"

Frame: Heatsink 24UK

Fork: Pashley Stock forks, with Vee mounts moved down 1inch by Clive Leeson and resprayed black.

Headset: Cane Creek C2 Headset, Black 1.1/8"

Stem: Kore 80mm, black

Bar: Azonic Single Wall, 2.5" rise

Cranks: 175mm Middleburns with Spider and 'Ard Guard

Chain: Sachs PC59

Rear tensioner: Heatsink prototype

Pedals: DMR V12

Front Wheel: Hope Mono Lightweight hub, Atomlab aircorp rim

RearWheel: DMR Revolver Singlespeed Hub, 16t ACS Claw freewheel, hub Atomlab aircorp rim (ground). Tioga 2.3" tyre, tube Kenda navegal 2.5 Stick-E compound

Front brake: Avid SD7 lever, unbranded Vee arms + Heatsink CNCed backings and White pads.

Rear Brake: HS33, Heatsink booster and Heatsink CNCed Magura backings + red pads

Seat/post: FSA Seatpost SL280 XC Seatpost, 31.6mm dia in Black + Selle Italia Nitrox seat with padding removed

Seat clamp: Brand X 34.9mm dia.

BB: UN53, 68mm shell x 122.5mm axle

Grips: Hoffman BMX mushroom pattern.

^ Sam's, (Barcelona, Spain): "Graphiti"

Frame: 24UK

Fork: BT F6 stock forks, disc only

Headset: Chris king gold

Stem: BT 90mm X 10º

Bar: Raceface Diabolous 1.5" rise

Cranks: Tensile

Chain: KMC Kool

Rear mech: Locked our drilled and modded tiagra

Pedals: kaminagua platform (lush!!)

Front Wheel: hope XC on DV rim, Digger tyre

Rear Wheel: Chris king classic HD axle and fun bolts on DV rim (unground), Kenda navegal 2.5 Stick-E compound

Front Brake: avid BB7 160mm (soooln to be 203 when the adaptor arrives) with XTR lever/cable

Rear Brake: HS33 polished lever with gold bolt, Heatsink booster and koolstop pads (Heatsink blues on their way!)

Seat/post: SDG I-Beam with gold bolt / SDG I-fly C

Seat clamp: gold Hope with gold bolt

BB: FSA platinum

Grips: random foam grips

^ David's, (Neath, South Wales): "Custom Black Powder Coated"

Frame: UK24 Powder coated black

Fork: Fatty-R

Headset: C2

Bar: Azonic double wall

Stem: Hope ( carbon fiber stem stackers )

BB: Echo external

Crankset: Middleburn RS7 Pro Trials

Pedals: DMR V12 mags

Chain: KMC cool

Rear Wheel: Onza Ronnie on Hope Pro II Trials

Front Wheel: Onza Reggie on Hope Pro II

Tyres: Tioga Factory DH

Rear brake: Black HS33 with Heatsink CNC Booster ( koxx bloxx )

Fronk brake: Hope Mini Pro Trials 160

Seat/Post: I - Beam

Seat clamp: Hope

Sqewers: Hope front, Fun bolts rear

Gearing: custom 6 speed sram cogs, Sr suntour mech and gripshift with clarks cable set

Forks:

24" frames take standard Stock trials forks, which have typically 400mm legs and 45mm rake. You can run a front disc, run Vees if you make some adapters (I'm looking at this at the moment), or you can get the bosses moved down if they're steel forks like the Pashleys, a service provided by for 10Ukpounds here in the UK by Clive Leeson.

From looking at the builds so far, for Alu frames like the 24UK I think that Alu forks look best with their tubing in the same perspective as the frame. The Chromo Pashley forks on my bike, although convenient to get modified by Clive Leeson for us UK riders to run 24" Vees (no disc mount), don't match the frame look as well being skinnier.

The BT disc only forks are an almost perfect match for the blue of the frame as you can see from Sam's bike.

Best to get hold of forks with their steerers uncut because the trend is to run high grip positions via high riser bars and lots of stackers.

Steve

[psychologist]

Thanks alot steve thats really helpful, what about stems? I notice that those examples are between 80 and 90 mm length and 10 and 15 degree rise, is that a suitable stem for the 24uk?

[bikerboy16]

just get an onza zoot bike all good components and looks really nice

[®ob$t@]

heatsinks have a few "24uk"

rob.......

[Heatsink]

Stem wise, I would recommend finding one with similar geo, although it doesn't have to be exact because I don't think + or - 1cm will be noticable if you didn't know otherwise! In my opinion the majority of stems are silly prices, and there's plenty of scope to find yourself a very decent one and save a huge amount of money.

I've got a Kore stem on my bike which were selling for £10-£15 in some places when I looked last. I found the writing on the side scrapes off with a plastic ruler for a more stealth look. Chances are you'll be running standard MTB bars with 25.4mm dia, so why not broaden your search to non trials-specific shops for the best deals.

Steve

Thanks alot steve thats really helpful, what about stems? I notice that those examples are between 80 and 90 mm length and 10 and 15 degree rise, is that a suitable stem for the 24uk?

[CurtisRider]

just get an onza zoot bike all good components and looks really nice

i got 1 through the post this morning, intitial thoughs-f**king hell yes!

i didnt ride it standard, as i had a few parts in mind to whack on it, like thompson stem, aznoic bars, middleburns, front disc and rear v brake-didnt see the point in settin it up with standard parts when i was gonna change anyway

suprisingly the rear hub is actually real nice! it had 6 pawls and engagements comparable to a bulb-i bought a pro 2, but im going to wait and see how this thing holds out

it comes with 2 heavy duty inner tubes, i dumped them and put in standards, as the tyres are beefy enough as they are

it rides real nice, they are short bikes too, everyone thinks they are 24inch t rexs(ok they look like one) but infact they are probably something like 1020-1030-im yet to measure

im even more happy by the fact it rides just like my old base, but more flicky and responsive-means switching from bike to bike is going to be fine for me

overall, damn good bikes, even as standard, if you like maguras and can change the bars for something a little higher (down to personal preference really), you have one hell of a bike for almost 600quid

[Heatsink]

I was riding my 24" yesterday evening and thinking along the same lines as you Paul about the improved flickability.

I got used to my bike straight away, and noticed how much more flickable it was compared to my stock. I was already pivoting out of blunts smoothly when before I had habitually ridden fakie. Suddenly a whole range of moves are occuring to me that I could be trying, and that's what my trials needed because I'd got bored of just trying to get up obstacles 1/2 an inch higher.

Felix Muecke popped me an email yesterday summarising his experiences these past few days he's been riding 24" rather than the old stock frame he sold off. He summed it up really well when he said his whole weekend could be described in one word - "Fun!" He said it had allowed him to experiment with so many new moves, and yet it still performs really well as a straight trials bike too!

Looking forward to seeing photos of your improved spec Zoot Paul

Steve

[Josh Greenan!!!!!!!!!!]

Yeah another zoot. Get one there nice.

[psychologist]

Thanks for the help so far, what about tyres? I notice alot of people are using the tioga tyres but the ones on 'Sam's, (Barcelona, Spain)' look really good.

[Davetrials]

i got 1 through the post this morning, intitial thoughs-f**king hell yes!

i didnt ride it standard, as i had a few parts in mind to whack on it, like thompson stem, aznoic bars, middleburns, front disc and rear v brake-didnt see the point in settin it up with standard parts when i was gonna change anyway

suprisingly the rear hub is actually real nice! it had 6 pawls and engagements comparable to a bulb-i bought a pro 2, but im going to wait and see how this thing holds out

it comes with 2 heavy duty inner tubes, i dumped them and put in standards, as the tyres are beefy enough as they are

it rides real nice, they are short bikes too, everyone thinks they are 24inch t rexs(ok they look like one) but infact they are probably something like 1020-1030-im yet to measure

im even more happy by the fact it rides just like my old base, but more flicky and responsive-means switching from bike to bike is going to be fine for me

overall, damn good bikes, even as standard, if you like maguras and can change the bars for something a little higher (down to personal preference really), you have one hell of a bike for almost 600quid

Get sum pics up paul.

[CurtisRider]

Looking forward to seeing photos of your improved spec Zoot Paul

Get sum pics up paul.

i shall get some tomorrow, its still not quite how i want it yet, got my mono trials coming and im gonna run some semi slicks cos the slow reezays are too damn sticky on everything also gotta dump the cassette and find a bloody 17t cog, 22:18 is mank on a 24!!!! then build me wheel up with the pro 2(the onza hub has been fantastic tonight, not a skip or anything, im really impressed! kinda wish i hadnt got the pro 2 quite yet)

its all details...

Thanks for the help so far, what about tyres? I notice alot of people are using the tioga tyres but the ones on 'Sam's, (Barcelona, Spain)' look really good.

i dont think the tiogas are that good in general, maxxis swamp things are supposed to be pretty nifty on the rear, and i really like my moto digger on my base and my 24 jump bike, infact im going to run one on the front of my zoot

[zoof]

onza zoot is quite a nice bike.

have a look.

bear in mind it is a bad colour.

Onza zoot

[Heatsink]

For Rim and Tyre suggestions, have a look at this thread below:

FAQ: 24" Wheels and Tyres

Very useful thread because as you can see it was an evolving discussion over nearly 2 years as riders tried different combos, and is still updated today. Very useful to read so that you can avoid the expensive trial and error others have already had to go through!

The last few posts in that thread mention some good tyres you could try. If you're wanting a more "street tyre" (Like a MTB version of a BMX tyre, with reduced puncture protection and hence around 1/2 the weight of the 24" versions of thicker DH tyres commonly used for 26" trials + fast rolling Tarmac tread with joined together knobs), then it's just a matter of finding one with enough pinch protection for your riding.

Steve

[Davetrials]

ive just got it stuck in my head that ur gonan run out of these very soon and have lots of trouble getting them back. if so ill be gutted cos i want one in 2 months.

[Heatsink]

Fear not Dave!

I'm really behind the 24UK 100%. I'll make sure that there are frames in stock because there's a strong wave of converts to the merits of 24" including myself, and my view is that this will only grow in time

I'll be bringing more colours out too to improve them further. In the coming weeks I need to get a white frame ordered to showcase that as a future colour option. Also, some more alternative decals are in the works, so the only way is up

Steve

ive just got it stuck in my head that ur gonan run out of these very soon and have lots of trouble getting them back. if so ill be gutted cos i want one in 2 months.

[Davetrials]

awsomeness, glad to see youve got it all planned out cos they look like asome bikes and id hate to see them fade away.