the mod father Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 My Onza T bird, came with Magura HS11's (older model bike, 2002/3 I think ?). Are the HS 33's that much better than the 11's ? Is it worth me upgrading ? I presume they will fit on the same 4 bolt mountings ?Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 just stick with the HS11's till you want to get a new lever as far as i know all the cycliners are the same and everything - if we manage to get you out for a ride we can help you out as much as wel can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerdude2006fr Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 HS11's r wel beta thn hs33'z they dont haf a tpa so r esier to uze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gardner Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 33's definatly, more comfortable and look alot nicer than the 11's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerben Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 yeah 33's have a more powerful piston inside them but you dont have to splash on full set of brakes just buy new levers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 HS11's r wel beta thn hs33'z they dont haf a tpa so r esier to uze I hope you're joking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mod father Posted April 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Bikerben - so you think the actual rim brake part of the brake is the same but just the lever assembly (master cylinder - in car speak) is the difference ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 basically get 04 levers they have nice leverage and easilly bodged TPA's if they get broken which adjust the pull of the lever basically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris mac Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 he most defonatly joking the lever blades are so so so so un comfortable hs 33' all the way tpa s are no good thats the only down side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watto Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 HS11's r wel beta thn hs33'z they dont haf a tpa so r esier to uzeAnd the point of making that stupid remark was ......, He made a perfectly feasable question and put it to the forum, but no you have to make a stupid remark, if you havn't got a decent answer dont answer at all . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerben Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 what u talking about 'mod-father'you mean the caliper on the rim.the piston in the hs33 are more powerful.i should know i have a 33 on the back and a 11 on the front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mod father Posted April 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Bikerben, that is exactly what I am asking. A Magura 11 or 33 has 3 pistons, one in the lever part (the master cylinder) and two, one either side obviously, at the rim (the slave cylinders). After your previous post I was just asking you to clarify whether you thought the actual rim brake part was the same for both 11 and 33's and just the master cylinder/lever part was different ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerben Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watto Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 The slave cylenders/pistons what ever you want to call them are identical in both cases, the difference is in the lever namely the TPA system(Turbo pad adjuster) also the levers are better as they are all metal unlike some model of hs 11 which have plastic casings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 HS11's r wel beta thn hs33'z they dont haf a tpa so r esier to uzeThey do have a tpa sort of, but you need an allen key to ajust them.The hs 11 leavers are a bit poo, but they still do the job. Maby just get one hs33 leaver for the rear brake and leave the front one as it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Rides-Trials Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hello i don't think so far as braking power goes, they are that dissimilar but they lever on the 04/05 is higher quality and you don't need to use an allen key, although the new hs33's don't seem to have as much bite as the old ones when you pull the lever it is more cushioned which i don't prefer so as long as you know what you are doing then buying some levers and fitting them shouldn't be too hard. The actual brake part of them is identical (as far as i know)Hope that helped, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley_171234 Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 to be honest hs33 r gd but they r forever breaking on me, but when i ad hs11 they worked spot on, some may say differntly though.ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAB Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 They do have a tpa sort of, but you need an allen key to ajust them.The hs 11 leavers are a bit poo, but they still do the job. Maby just get one hs33 leaver for the rear brake and leave the front one as it is?The word your missing is "TURBO"..... it's not very "TURBO" to put you hand in your pocket and get an allen key out, now is it??????HS11 are budget brakes and if you want more power go for the HS33, (larger master piston and ally body/lever blade) and if you can get them get the 04's, as i've seen nothing but problems with the new 05's No point just buying just levers unless your only buying one!! as a pair of levers costs as much as a complete set of brakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camster911 Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 HS11's r wel beta thn hs33'z they dont haf a tpa so r esier to uzeYou dont have a brain either, so its easier to be a dumbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Well its kind of been said if you jumble together seperate posts. The hs33 has a larger master cylinder (the piston in the lever) so it can transmit more fluid through the brake and effectively giving as far as i remember magura saying 33% more power than a hs11. The lever blade is also made of aluminium and has better adjustment via the tpa so will be better than ahs11 lever in pretty much every way. The slave cylinder's (near the brake pads) are identical so can be used with a hs33 lever to create a complete hs33 brake. It should be cheaper for you to upgrade just the lever than you upgrading the entire brake anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerdude2006fr Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Ok so the comment that was made earlier by me wasnt actually me was my cousin who found out my password ages ago.... Changed it now!And in answer to the topic,Yes it probably is worth upgrading the levers but the rest of the brake is the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onza t-rex Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 I would say go for the hs33's because they look and feel a lot better and yea they would fit in the 4-bolt mountings.bump nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 (edited) And the point of making that stupid remark was ......, He made a perfectly feasable question and put it to the forum, but no you have to make a stupid remark, if you havn't got a decent answer dont answer at all . Drop it, He's already explained that his cousin was on his account, Just take a look through the rest of his posts.Edit : In answer to your question, Pretty much all of the internals are the same, So I wouldn't really call it 'upgrading' , It's also unlikely you will notice any difference in power Edited April 22, 2006 by deanie-b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1989 Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 get some hs33 levers its cheeper then buying a hole unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watto Posted April 22, 2006 Report Share Posted April 22, 2006 QUOTE(deanie-b @ Apr 22 2006, 09:00 AM) ←Drop it, He's already explained that his cousin was on his account, Just take a look through the rest of his posts.So i can see a day into the future can i ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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