munkee Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Copied from angry thread cos i need ideas now:I have a dillema. New frame, echo lite and my gay gearing do not go together with the chain. When chain is tight the rear wheel is nearly out the dropouts (i dont really mind just tighten it up loads more) BUT.. the brake cylinders cant move down on the mounts far enough to hit the rim.If i push the wheel all the way in, the chain requires a half link.. since if i take a link out its too tight to put back together again.So heres my possible solutions:A. Go to halfords tmrw morning and try and source a half link. Remember this is halfords so chances of this happeneing are 0B. File down the holes in the brake mounts so that they can slide down a little further (no idea if this will work yet)C. Grind the horizontal drop outs 5mm (maybe not even that) deeper on both sides so that i can then take a link out and everything will be dandy + go buy a half link when i can be arsed.D. Pray somone brings a half link to the ride in portsmouth tmrw.. (chances also too slim)Opinions people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 with those choices?file down the brake mounts - at least you wont f**k your frame up the arse permanently if ti goes wrong.of course you could just get brave and go brakeless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Make a little chain tensioner like Will has.It looks fun to make + easy enough to do in your kitchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swize Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 (edited) Make a little chain tensioner like Will has.It looks fun to make + easy enough to do in your kitchen Yer try and make something like the leeson mod tenntioners. I rember a mate making one out of a pice of sheat steel, bascily cut out a rectange and stuck a jock wheele on worked for a good few weeks if ime right.Orrr if worse comes to worse could buy a new chain? Edited April 15, 2006 by Swize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medwaytrials Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 get one of them strong half link chains. Im not entirely sure what there called but my friend had one and there mint. Im sure someone could give you more information on these chains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted April 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 (edited) im riding tmrw so i cant order owt, ill take a look at this tensioner thing and im gonna try and file the brake mounts tmrwanyone got a link to the tensioner? Edited April 15, 2006 by Spacemunkee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isah Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 not the answer to your question, just some infos about the half-link chain...it's called "Shadow Conspiracy Interlock Chain" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 I sort of have the same problem...ish.I just angle the brake pads right down onto the rim, probably no good in you case though.Wouldn't it be good if someone made a mod tensioner, that came with metal slot to slot into your dropouts so the wheel wouldn't move about. I'd buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted April 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 yup it would be hella nice. Everyone says how all stocks should have horizontal drop outs and shit.. to be honest.. id stick vertical drop outs on this mod anyday of the week .. never had any trouble before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBProductions Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Am i being nieve or could you not run youre chain slightly loose for the day until you get the problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted April 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 (edited) it comes out too loose i think in the end its gonna come down to slightly looser chain and the modified mounts.. i pointed the pads down and only abour 3/4 touch.. im not rinsing new pads on that.. Edited April 15, 2006 by Spacemunkee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 it's called "Shadow Conspiracy Interlock Chain"And its shit I had one, i snapped 8 links clean in half. All i can suggest is ask around for people going on the round if they have one, if not, don't f**k it up even more and just leave it.Its only 1 ride.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBProductions Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 I sort of have the same problem...ish.I just angle the brake pads right down onto the rim, probably no good in you case though.Wouldn't it be good if someone made a mod tensioner, that came with metal slot to slot into your dropouts so the wheel wouldn't move about. I'd buy.um you not seen my toxsin or am I wrong about their idea of chain tension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 If you imagine a bag of dogwank, you have effectively imagined the Shadow Interlock chain pictured up there. However, the Interlock V2 IS a load better. I got 3 links from one to use as a half-link on my BMX, and they seem to be pretty decent in all honesty. Still not 100% about it, but y'know, it's a chain, so I never will be...Misaligned brake mounts compared to stay length and shit like that used to be common on Onzas, but then they got their shit together and for the most part sorted it out. It appears Echo haven't with the Lite, so I guess it's just bad luck, basically. I don't really know how much material you could file out of the mounts, 'cos there's only like 3-4mm of material top 'n' bottom anyway (plus you've gotta think about your brake piston grounding on the 4-bolt mounts on the frame anyway if you have to move it too far?).Best bet would just be to try and source a half-link or a spare bit of Shadow Interlock from someone tomorrow, if you can. There are a few knock-off Interlock V2 chains out now (a YBN model, a Mission model, etc.), so you *may* find one in Halfords with someone else's name on it, but if not, they may happen to have a half-link lying around somewhere. I've seen one in a Bikehut before anyway, so it just depends how tech your Halfords store is with their bike gear. Good luck with it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swize Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 um you not seen my toxsin or am I wrong about their idea of chain tension Just something like :[attachmentid=3830]The yellow bit is the jock wheel, if you ran it on the inside of the frame ime sure it would work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 um you not seen my toxsin or am I wrong about their idea of chain tension Nope, lets see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerousDave Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 whats your gearing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted April 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 (edited) 19 13I went riding today, managed to grind, drill and file the 4 bolt mounts so the cylinders could move down lower. Then during ride we bodged some spacers ( the silver rings off some v8's) so that the chain tugs would pull the wheel in to tension. Only prob at the mo is my chainline is too straight and chain is hitting the bash plate. So some more grinding will be happening soon. Ordered a half link chain.. so i never ever run out of half links ever again. Edited April 16, 2006 by Spacemunkee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 19 13I went riding today, managed to grind, drill and file the 4 bolt mounts so the cylinders could move down lower. Then during ride we bodged some spacers ( the silver rings off some v8's) so that the chain tugs would pull the wheel in to tension. Only prob at the mo is my chainline is too straight and chain is hitting the bash plate. So some more grinding will be happening soon. Ordered a half link chain.. so i never ever run out of half links ever again.chainging your gearing from 19-13 to 18-12 will solve the problem.doing bodges with rear wheel and rear brake is never a good idea imo...will it be expensie to change to 18-12? 15 quid for rear cog and 15 for an acs freewheel? aint too bad..providing you like that set-up.Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted April 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 chainging your gearing from 19-13 to 18-12 will solve the problem.doing bodges with rear wheel and rear brake is never a good idea imo...will it be expensie to change to 18-12? 15 quid for rear cog and 15 for an acs freewheel? aint too bad..providing you like that set-up.Will Profile and front surley cog.. just bought it too. To be honest the job ive done witht he brake mounts has not comprimised the safety one bit a bolts a bolt and braking forse will be mostly outwards. It didnt cause a problem all day so im happy at the mo, the proper mounts will go on when the half link arrives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted April 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 (edited) [attachmentid=3872]Thats the when i moved the whole wheel back and pushed the mounts in to the available space hardly needed to move at all just a bolt thickness, had plenty of room left over too as you can see. Great bodge in my opinion and gave me more than enough room Edited April 16, 2006 by Spacemunkee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Cable Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 I have a couple of BMX'er friends who say that the shadow half link chain is shite, and there not recommended. there extremely ' snappy' happy!From Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bike addict Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 I had the exact same problem. Resolution- Buy a complete half link chain worked for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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