Wheel Tensioners Keep Slipping

[PaRtZ]

OK im getting a bit annoyed now as it seems everytime I do something my wheel pushes the tensioners out on one side, making my wheel rub against the brake. I know that its because I was tensioning the wheel while the nuts were done up, thus its scratched the dropout (ahem )

Anyway can anyone suggest anything that will make my wheel stay in place and not move all the time? I should be getting a new frame (hopefully) so aside from that any other suggestions would be helpful

thanks

[CBProductions]

new frame already matthew ........ , some pictures would be useful and / or a description of the parts in question

[PaRtZ]

this good enough burnsy dear?

[CBProductions]

yeah thats cool matthew dear

just whack a single magura evo spacer infront of the bolt before tightening up I had the same problem on my toxsin , if you dont get me ill do you a lovely blue peter diagram

[Mark W]

New knurled spacer thing for your wheel nut, maybe?

What are you using to tension your chain? Snail cam or chain tug (I know they don't have the snail cam holes on Zips, but I know someone on here drilled some anyway...)?

I find that just having the wheel nuts fairly tight (so they take up any of the slack in the dropouts (so they flex them in a bit), but loose enough so you can still force the wheel round, then just sort it out with your chain tugs, then tighten the wheel-nut like He-man. After that, just tighten the chain tug up so it's tight against the frame, and you're usually good to go. On my BMX, I don't even run chain tugs 'cos you can get a looooooad of torque through a big 'n' burly 17mm nut, but on my trials bike (well, my Zip, no need on the Slinger...) I run two chain tugs. Just makes it easier.

Either way, just be super careful with how you're doing it, basically. New knurled nuts might help if you've somehow raped your dropouts