Moi Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 (edited) Hello!I just bought a green set of Magura HS33. After riding with the rear brake (with braided hose) for about a week, the brake lever decided to break. (I don't wanna talk about it)Now my mind is set to anti-magura (I don't like their new levers, and the material they are made of) so I was wondering what you think about mounting a discbrakelever on it? Is there anything that will make it not work at all, or is it something that might work decent?I know that the warranty will not be valid anymore, but it doesn't matter for me.The lever I was thinking of is a Hope mini leverthanks in advance! Edited April 9, 2006 by Moi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the judge Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Won't work, the ratios between the pistons will not be right. Also the hope is an open system with a reservoir whereas the magura is a closed system without a reservoir (I think that last sentence was right anyway ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moi Posted April 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 any chance of modifying a discbrakelever (without reservoir) to make it work? or is it a no-workie-at-all?any tips on another brakelever that could work besides the magura's?I've heard that the R&B Design levers leak very easy. Is this a fact or myth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Are we talking about the whole leaver or just the blade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moi Posted April 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 the whole lever. It is the "bladeholder" that I think is made out of a bad material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 It won't work, disc brake levers have a resevoir in them which, i think, allows for fluid expansion when the disc gets hot. Now rim brakes don't get hot so won't need a resvoir and as such it will not work with a disc brake lever.When you pull a magura lever the lever pushes the piston which pushes the rest of the fluid through the lever.... now with a disc brake when you pull the lever some funky stuff happens inside it and then the pads move.Shit explanation but NO IT WON'T WORK. Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moi Posted April 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Shit explanation but NO IT WON'T WORK. Sorry Your explanation worked for me. Thanks for all the good answers from all of you.Just one more question: What do you people think when you see this picture?The picture(quite large) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 its a small crack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the judge Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Looks like maybe you tightened it too much???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 overtightening would more than likely strip the threads with those crappy leversif you dont like that lever, get an rb one? or try an older lever(04 or earlier) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Looks like maybe you tightened it too much????Yeah I'd say the same.Well there's the rb leaver, and that about it unless you want to start bodging things.I've heard mainly bad things about them, but seals can be bought really cheap off of heatsinkbikes as far as i know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moi Posted April 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Looks like maybe you tightened it too much????that was exactly the answer I was expecting. And I understand it too.But my version of this story is that I didn't even get to the point of the tightening. This means that I was far far away from overtightening it. Believe it or not. (it's my words against common sense, and I am losing the battle )But this isn't bringing the thread anywhere. I will probably try to get a R&B or a 2004 Magura lever. I have tried the 2004 before and it worked like a dream.Thanks for all the answers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Is it a shop-bought leaver, if so you could maby try and get some sort of refund? Or if not maby a discount on another leaver, just phone magura and get haggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoNnY__Mc Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 the same thing happened to me mate , you hardly tighten it... im on your side! i just got an 04 lever and they work so much nicer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott-mad Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 funk all the buy an 04 lever get a v-brake!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moi Posted April 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 (edited) Is it a shop-bought leaver, if so you could maby try and get some sort of refund? Or if not maby a discount on another leaver, just phone magura and get haggling. Bought from an internetshop, sent them pictures and a description, but on the pictures it looks like overtightening. I don't mind it. I gave up trying to get a new magura lever. Now I want to try something different. I just haven't decided what yet.funk all the buy an 04 lever get a v-brake!!! say what? Edited April 9, 2006 by Moi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Only a few of us have ran a differnt leaver on a set of Hs33Leeson and meI use a Hope Sport C2 leaver with fresh brand new pistons throughout. have to use a Magura babrb fitting with an o-ring on the end to seal up with the leaver if using std maggy stuff, other wise use the coper washer on braded stuff.I have the leaver hereThey are no longer made and are not easy to get hold of on there own but give an amazing feel, have to run booster due to the flex. more power than Rb, stiffer than anyhting as it's all CNC'd and make your brake work mintBleeding is diffent, Slave to leaver it the way as per normal Maguras but you stop there with syringe still in place and some fluid water only on this system by the way, you place in top cap and then wind on the adjsutedIt's a pimp setup. Let me know if you want my leaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 What do you people think when you see this picture?The picture(quite large)Longer bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moi Posted April 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 do you mean that you have a discbrakelever on your hs33-system?Is there something special about that lever that makes it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 (edited) do you mean that you have a discbrakelever on your hs33-system?Is there something special about that lever that makes it work?YesHope Sport C2Yes it's a C2 so closed, 10mm piston, all CNC, new seals, water only or it wont work, fits a std magura barb fitting no mods needed just to seal it with an o-ringI no longer use the leaver but if you want it let me knowEdit: Seams inclear to you what i'm saying or offering you here so here are the pics. Please excuse the Goodrdige hose a si got bord of my Magura stuff so fitted this Edited April 9, 2006 by Wright Pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissis Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 YesHope Sport C2Yes it's a C2 so closed, 10mm piston, all CNC, new seals, water only or it wont work, fits a std magura barb fitting no mods needed just to seal it with an o-ringI no longer use the leaver but if you want it let me knowEdit: Seams inclear to you what i'm saying or offering you here so here are the pics. Please excuse the Goodrdige hose a si got bord of my Magura stuff so fitted thisif that works then a giant mph lever should work too as they are both virtually the same, and work on the same technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Nope Giant is very differnt to these and won't work. Been tired and tested Hope are the only ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali C Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I used exactly the same hope lever on my maggie and had bad results. I found the 10mm piston just too small, you had to set your pads soooo close to the rim that even the slightest buckle would make it rub, plus the fact that it was spongyer than a chocolate cake even with a booster or two.I would either get a longer bolt with a nut on the end or (prefrebly) get an 04 maggie lever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moi Posted April 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I no longer use the leaver but if you want it let me knowsorry, but I don't want it.I will probably buy a r&b lever or get one of the 04-maggies.Thanks for all the answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Rb is just as bad but it also flexs at the leaver, i'd go for an 04 if i was you.if you wanted to try it im sure we can come to a deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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