Get 1 Dvd And Trials Generally

[hill_393]

Just watched the new Get 1 DVD. I thought honestly it was ok, but and i don't mean to sound rude here - Did it get a bit repetitive after a while? The footage is good, but it seems to be a lot of gaps and drops, nothing else. I think the best section personally was Tim Pratt's as he bought something new to it - Spins, Manuals etc. I think that with most trials video's recently, and the sport in general is it seems to be the biggest wins, not neccessarily th most stylish. I think we need to see more tech street video's in the style of maybe Props - Flowing Moves that are nice to watch. Am I alone in this view?

Darren

[Ali C]

I have been saying this for a while.

if you see my Gravity and Bangor vid (both on tartybikes) hopfully that will show I am more into the style type of riding rather than tap gap sidehop all the time.

[Joe Papasnap Maher]

Just watched the new Get 1 DVD. I thought honestly it was ok, but and i don't mean to sound rude here - Did it get a bit repetitive after a while? The footage is good, but it seems to be a lot of gaps and drops, nothing else. I think the best section personally was Tim Pratt's as he bought something new to it - Spins, Manuals etc. I think that with most trials video's recently, and the sport in general is it seems to be the biggest wins, not neccessarily th most stylish. I think we need to see more tech street video's in the style of maybe Props - Flowing Moves that are nice to watch. Am I alone in this view?

Darren

Right....i agree but i disagree..

I Havnent seen the dvd but i can imagine what you mean when you say...oh it was just gap, drop, sidehop...whatever...

But thats all trials is....! If you watch trials as opposed to bmx'ing itsa sooooo bloody boring. Doesnt even compare.

The you mention tim pratt... Yes we should more people like this, and im sure the whole 24'street seen will soon really pick up, but people like tim pratt, johns shrews, phil feeney....These are all really talented riders.. and soon enough i can only imagine more people will just copy the same old stuff as there doing.

If you wanna be entertained by a bmx dvd.

[Olly C]

I have been saying this for a while.

If you see my Gravity and Bangor vid (both on tartybikes) hopfully that will show I am more into the style type of riding rather than tap gap sidehop all the time.

That Bangor videos mint, love the riding in that video even though it was fairly slow paced and the music wasnt to my taste, but the riding was great, really refreshing.

Olly.

[ben_travis]

we have had this topic and this generalising of trials so many times recently.

WHO THE f**k CARES.....sorry but its that simple.

e.g......

A guy (lets call him ben) goes out on his generic long black bike with high bb, does a couple of 48" sidehops, then some taps, then some tap 90's then a sidehop onto a rail and rides along it. He then starts doing competition style sections on the street, but mixing it up like nick goddard BUT on a long bike.

he has filmed all this so releases a video on a forum (lets call it TF). Ben then gets slated for trying to be like nick goddard/ali c etc even though ben is just having fun on his bike. Then another wanker says that its repetitive because he is doing big taps and sidehops.

The point is that Ben cannot release a video on TF without being said to be boring etc. Ben realises that so many people on this forum bum other riders, and buy the same bikes hoping to be as good as that said rider. Ben now states that he is f**king bored of this same conversation that keeps popping up over and over.

No body cares. Ben had fun riding his bike how HE wants, not trying to be tim pratt/goddard/porter/shrews/ali c/cls/stan shaw etc, he went out and tries stuff he wants to.......

so please close this topic its been heard all before.

[Steve-A]

I dont want to take sides on this argument, but all I will say is that everything has a nature of repition.

If you watch Tims section of GET1 you could deffine it as bunny hop, manual, manual, bunny hop, spin. In the same was as you could say that Craig Lee Scoots section was tap, gap, sidehop. Not that this makes the DVD bad, I really like Tims section and the DVD as a whole.

The same can be said for a BMX videos, they are just a different repition. If you watch a trails video, there are going to be a lot of turndown, table top, 360 type sections, or on street a lot of manual, grind down handrail and barspins. For one you are comparing BMX as a whole to one area of trials. Secondly you are comparing the amount of variation in a trick oriented sport to the amount in a sport based on traversing a section.

Trials is trials, BMX is BMX, go ride and have fun.

[Tomm]

No body cares. Ben had fun riding his bike how HE wants, not trying to be tim pratt/goddard/porter/shrews/ali c/cls/stan shaw etc, he went out and tries stuff he wants to.......

Who is this Ben, and why can't he speak for himself?

[manuel]

Surely if you watched you were blown away by Jack Meeks section ?

That was incredible - sooo much tech.

The whole DVD is so varied ... just think harder about what is going on in each scene. and what each move requires...

also - film makes stuff look lamer.... (in some cases)

Edited April 1, 2006 by manuel

[Clarky]

I havent yet whatched this video but to be honest with you trials is all about sidehops taps gaps and i aint really into all the streety stuff its all bmx'y.

[CBProductions]

Who can say what trials is when it is just a classification , just stop moaning and ride your bike regardless if its a raleigh poop or a koxx levelboss. At least we are not starving to death in a country surrounded by war criminals and have some form of freedom to do these things. You will find people everywhere that look up to there idols by wanting the same stuff as they have. Let the matter be and release youre videos regardless of other people comments. It's nice to hear people's views but you should only be happy with yourself not trying to impress other people. Yes GET was a bit repetitive in places but it was still jaw droppingly good , and I also found ali c's video very good.

Ride on

Edited April 1, 2006 by CBProductions

[ben_travis]

Who is this Ben, and why can't he speak for himself?

haha, im laughing hoping there was a bit of sarcasm in there .

Sorry, i get so annoyed with this type of topic, my total view is I DONT CARE, and anyone who does should rethink their opinion. i have made so many comments recently with almost identical points. The fact of the matter is, each person on here should go out and ride how they like to ride. Its simple as. I dont go out thinking oh my god!!!!!!!!1111 james porter rides like this so im going to try that.

where as some people on here see how a person rides, and go out and try to ride like that as well, thinking its a cool factor. For foooooks sake most of us are in our mid to late teens or older and we ride freaking push bikes around, we are never going to be classed as cool.

I dont care how one member rides compared to another. As long as they are riding for fun then thats the main aim. I like to try a bit of everything, but at the moment im into powermoves where its tryin harder, and natural is where its at.......

(incase anyone didnt know, the *ben* in my original post was me )

[Ali C]

hmm, makes me feel a tad closed minded now

I did go though a segment of inch hunting, but it wasnt for me. Others might enjoy it and thats great if they do, they shouldnt feel bad because of their style.

PS I loved the dvd!

[Bessell]

Some of u lot are wankers, u really r, who gives a f**k if u didn like the dvd keep it to your self. Trials is all about the person doing it how they want to and how they see it! now go out and ride! Edited April 1, 2006 by hardcorebiking

[boon racoon]

mazie

Edited April 1, 2006 by the boon

[hill_393]

Christ - Touched a few people's nerves here havent i?!

Darren

[Swize]

Christ - Touched a few people's nerves here havent i?!

Darren

Yes becuase your not thinking about the amout of effort that Nick put in to making this dvd for everyone....

I mean in a trials DVD what do you expect to see? Ok there was a few streeter riders, but in genral trials is just tap, gap, sidehop, drop.

Edited April 2, 2006 by Swize

[Dan Campbell]

Trials was about getting from one end of a section to another by any means. It evolved into what it is today by people wanting more out of their riding.

The more people that ride the more ideas will come and the more varied "trials" will become. As far as i can tell it should be about a person riding their bike how they want, to gain whatever they want to out of it.

If a rider sees someone riding and they like the style then they will copy it, thats how trials spreads.

We're all copying someones style, whether the influence is entirely trials or whether it's gleamed from other types of riding like BMX. We all call ourselves trials riders because the basic ideas behind trials are still in all of our riding. We are trying to get around/over/under/across an obstacle that's in our way. NO MATTER HOW WE DO IT.

Dan

edit: Oh and I love Nicks DVD it's utterly superb, he should be extremely proud of what he has done.

Edited April 2, 2006 by dan_brisa

[The Dude]

Trials is trials, BMX is BMX, go ride and have fun.

I like it, alot and pretty much sums up what i was going to say.

Astounding DVD showes alot of new lines over very different obstacles, the size of them was just rediculous, ive seen it once, but i might buy it just to refine my technique by watching people do it to such extremes.

[ben_travis]

hmm, makes me feel a tad closed minded now

how do you mean closed minded ali.???? that comment confused me......your style of riding is ace, because you have the attitude of "who cares what people think of my riding!!!!". From your comments on topics like this its easy to tell that you dont care, you go out and ride how you like, same attitude as i have and i like that, yes i do go out hoping to improve on inches, but i also go out and ride technical stuff for the banter . its all gravy....

Some of u lot are wankers, u really r, who gives a f**k if u didn like the dvd keep it to your self.

adam, i hope that wasnt referenced to me. . I loved the dvd, none of my comments in this topic are aimed at the dvd. Yes in the 'GET' topic i mentioned that i thought it was let down by the time it took to make. BUT like someone else has said, nick should be extremely proud. its the best trials dvd available by a mile. The editing is great and the level of riding is good.

im just sick of topics slating or commenting on the way people ride. Its all been said before, the topic starter just added the GET dvd in as an example. I just get so annoyed, because like you say, just get out and ride.

[hill_393]

I want to stress that I wasn't saying it was a crap job, or binning Nick's work - The DVD is good, it has given me lots of riding ideas, and yes, he should be proud of what he's done - It was 2 years in the making, and the effort he put in shows through the video. It's playing in my shop as I speak - that's how much i like it.

I find it disheartening sometimes that when an opinion is put up, be it someone's point of view, an opinion, etc - it will always get torn to pieces by 100 different people, who in the end make you feel like you shouldn't have bothered. Makes me wonder sometimnes is it worth having an opinion?

Darren

Christ - Touched a few people's nerves here havent i?!

Darren

[ben_travis]

sorry darren....

in my opinion (which we should all be able to express) i feel this sort of question has been answered before, generally its a topic people wont change their opinion on. This is my opinion on this topic, i think that its a topic we should leave alone, because its almost a topic slagging the way we ride, i know it wasnt intended like that, but this is how people ride trials.

All the riders in GET 1 are top, top riders. Some of them are cream of uks riders, and this is how they ride. All of it is amazing how they can do the stuff they do, but then this all started when one senior member commented on repetition from a CLS video, and all the homo sheep followed and started with all this crap about boring this boring that.

Thing is i find all this spinny stuff boring, i couldnt ride like tim pratt/shrewers because I PERSONALLY FIND IT BORING, but i can sit back and think 'holy shit' - you boys are amazing at what you do. I have an example of this from a trip to inverness a couple of weeks back.....

we were riding with danny macaskill (amazing street rider (my favourite in fact)) and he was riding around massive bunny hops amazing g-turns and all this ace street stuff. Im stood there almost awe struck. His skills are amazing. Being who i am i carried on riding how i like, then i pulled a 48-49" sidehop to both wheels, and danny is stood there with his jaw near his ankles.

We were both amazed at how the other rode, although neither of us tried to emulate the other its just how we enjoyed riding and we both appreciated the ability the other had. Its simple as that .

Im going to leave this one, because i think i have made my point. I just hate this type of topic, because its almost a sly dig at each others riding style. (although i know YOUR topic wasnt intended like this.)

EDIT : missed the last bracket for all you punctuation monkeys heehee

Edited April 2, 2006 by ben@hulltrials

[hill_393]

Cheers for the reply Ben. I think possibly your the 1st person to see that it wasn't a dig at anyone. it was just an expression of opinion, which I'm learnning more and more on here should be kept quiet, for fear of it being torn apart. I appreciate your answer because rather than a simple - "Your view is wrong, so be quiet" answer, you've taken the time to go into detail about it, and given a fair, non biased answer, which is fair to say is sometimes lacking with replies to posts. Please note everyone - maybe this is how replies should be - Ben's reply here is a perfect example.

Darren

sorry darren....

in my opinion (which we should all be able to express) i feel this sort of question has been answered before, generally its a topic people wont change their opinion on. This is my opinion on this topic, i think that its a topic we should leave alone, because its almost a topic slagging the way we ride, i know it wasnt intended like that, but this is how people ride trials.

All the riders in GET 1 are top, top riders. Some of them are cream of uks riders, and this is how they ride. All of it is amazing how they can do the stuff they do, but then this all started when one senior member commented on repetition from a CLS video, and all the homo sheep followed and started with all this crap about boring this boring that.

Thing is i find all this spinny stuff boring, i couldnt ride like tim pratt/shrewers because I PERSONALLY FIND IT BORING, but i can sit back and think 'holy shit' - you boys are amazing at what you do. I have an example of this from a trip to inverness a couple of weeks back.....

we were riding with danny macaskill (amazing street rider (my favourite in fact)) and he was riding around massive bunny hops amazing g-turns and all this ace street stuff. Im stood there almost awe struck. His skills are amazing. Being who i am i carried on riding how i like, then i pulled a 48-49" sidehop to both wheels, and danny is stood there with his jaw near his ankles.

We were both amazed at how the other rode, although neither of us tried to emulate the other its just how we enjoyed riding and we both appreciated the ability the other had. Its simple as that .

Im going to leave this one, because i think i have made my point. I just hate this type of topic, because its almost a sly dig at each others riding style. (although i know YOUR topic wasnt intended like this.)

EDIT : missed the last bracket for all you punctuation monkeys heehee

[Ali C]

ben, I thought I was being a tad closed minded as I said I didnt like the inch hunting style of riding, the way I put it seemed to me like I was saying it was crap and no one should be doing it. But it is pretty cool, I wish I could go as big as you guys do!

but I also agree about the "I dont care what I ride" comment

blaaa, cant put it down in words that well. .... summery, do what you like, where you like, on what bike you like and do what you do.

[Towler]

OOOPS SORRY BEN ON TROWLERS ACCOUNT HERE

Cheers for the reply Ben. I think possibly your the 1st person to see that it wasn't a dig at anyone. it was just an expression of opinion, which I'm learnning more and more on here should be kept quiet, for fear of it being torn apart. I appreciate your answer because rather than a simple - "Your view is wrong, so be quiet" answer, you've taken the time to go into detail about it, and given a fair, non biased answer, which is fair to say is sometimes lacking with replies to posts. Please note everyone - maybe this is how replies should be - Ben's reply here is a perfect example.

Darren

nah i like the discussion, i dont like to argue with people on here, because firstly its not tough arguin on the internet. I can see your point, and you can see mine. Everyone has an opinion, i was probably a little strong on the fact that i hate this topic. Ill let u off though

ben, I thought I was being a tad closed minded as I said I didnt like the inch hunting style of riding, the way I put it seemed to me like I was saying it was crap and no one should be doing it. But it is pretty cool, I wish I could go as big as you guys do!

but I also agree about the "I dont care what I ride" comment

blaaa, cant put it down in words that well. .... summery, do what you like, where you like, on what bike you like and do what you do.

ah i see what you mean ali. i dont particularly measure stuff anymore, i know if its big by my standards and i know if its not. i dont like to inch hunt, but i do do it sometimes because i like to go big, it makes me feel good about my riding, but at the moment, i like to mix it up. I hate to copy stuff. but there are some things that i cant do (because of shit ability/lack of strength and getting sick when spinning ) that i wish i could do. I enjoy it.

I think Ali has summed it up with his erm.......summery DO WHAT YOU LIKE, WHERE YOU LIKE, ON WHAT BIKE YOU LIKE, AND DO WHAT YOU DO. ace finish to the discussion

Edited April 2, 2006 by Towler

[Watson©]

Too be fair... I really don't give a f**k what people think about my riding style or what I do... as long as I'm having fun and riding with mates I'm as happy as can be... you cant beat having a good laugh and riding! FACT!

P.S... I thought the DVD was awesome!!!!