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Would you be bothered if the girls at your school went around saying you had a nice ass?

Nah, not really. I was told yesterday that I had a 'lovely smile', who doesn't like a compliment?

If a girl at school ever said I had a 'nice ass' then I'd be flattered...and then lurk around in bushes and wait for her after school.

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According to research, it's the individuals that have an aversion to homosexuality that are the ones who are most likely to have homosexual interest. My guess is it's a manifestation of self loathing/fear and an attempt to hide what they don't want others to see.

The research was done by asking indivduals what their opinion was towards homosexuality. Some said they had a problem with it, some said they didn't. All of these people were then made to watch gay porn whilst their sexual arousol was measured. By - if I remember correctly - not a small but a large amount, more of the individuals with the problem towards homosexuality became aroused. Perhaps all you individuals with issues towards homosexuality should take some time to think about how you truely feel towards being gay. You might find a different reality.

In other research, it was found that for most people, sexuality exists, not in absolutes but across a spectrum. With people having sexual interests towards both the opposite sex and their own, but with differing degrees of interest. So it may be that most people actually have a sexual interest in the same sex even if only a small interest. In the society we live in I can easily see how people wouldn't recognise this however. Especially with the prejudices that exist. Very interesting stuff though.

Did anyone actually read that? I think I saw that on telly too.

A bit different from saying 'every gay' but there was this lad in school, he used to fancy me and my mate. We heard about it because he kept saying to some girl 'ohhh, hes got a nice ass hasn't he'. We got hold of him and 'put him right'...a good old bit of threatening works a treat and he shut up after that.

We used to pick on him a bit for being gay, but he got what was coming to him for going around and putting it onto other people when there just wasn't any need. He was also one of those 'I'm gay, everyone should know about it' wankers, the kind that goes on shopping trips with his girl friends...twat.

See, if he didn't go around saying I had a nice ass (I do, but its besides the point) then I wouldn't have been bothered.

:rolleyes:

EDIT: haha. I love the way this thread has gone

"im gay"

"thats cool" <- reply from 20 people

"actually im not gay"

"thank god your not gay I hate gays" <- reply from 20 people, including people who previously said 'thats cool'

Nice. I like the way how everyone jumps on the 'opinion bandwagon'.

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Did anyone actually read that? I think I saw that on telly too.

Did I ever. We also got told that by a teacher in school, and I've heard it in many other places. Same way maybe that bullies apparently bully others they see who have low self esteem and self confidence to make up for their own lack of self esteem and self confidence?

What I'm more surprised people didn't see was what Tomm was trying to point out in his post ;)

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i dnt no ive met one of kaelas mates in her street (doesnt hang bout with him now) but he wasnt gay however all the people at his school bullied him aand said he was , he slept with as many girls as he could to sort of prove them wrong but now ... he is gay.

do you think if you are told it enough you would doubt yourself and become gay?

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What I'm more surprised people didn't see was what Tomm was trying to point out in his post ;)

I believe people just read what they want to - ignore what the post actually says, and ignore the posts they don't want to accept.. which means they end up looking stupid and/or gay.

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On the last few replies to this, it is true that everyone changes opinion in different circumstances.

Ask your local Klu Klux Klan activist if they're racist and they'll say no, but as soon as anything happens involving a black guy they'll be the first people to start up the insults...but of course, they mean it in the nicest possible way.

Its the same with this, we all thought mr.sam was gay, so we're all polite and say 'hey, thats cool!' whilst slowly edging away to put our backs to the wall. As soon as it is revealed it 'wasn't him' we all start the insults again and unclentched our arses.

As I said earlier, no one dares reveal their true opinion, because in todays society anything that doesn't go by the book is frowned upon. Its like now, if I told you all my true opinions of England, I'd probably be accused of being a traitor to my country.

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Awesome <_<

I can almost understand that attitude if you were in a room stuffed to the teeth with big, violent-looking gay people. I.e. lie and talk shit to get out of it. But this is a public forum about trials, you're hiding behind your computer. You have no incentive to lie about this, apart from to "fit in" with the crowd. But whatever.

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Well, i must say congratulation's on duping all of us. But my opinion of 'gays' still hasnt changed. I dont mind them. There just people.

And about the guy who sed that his mum thought he was gay, this girl thought i was....she doesnt any more... :P wont go into any more detail!

From Lee

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And about the guy who sed that his mum thought he was gay, this girl thought i was....she doesnt any more... :P wont go into any more detail!

The thing is, she confronted me, and actually asked me if I was gay, when I told her i wasn't, she actually looked disapointed.

I wasn't too bothered about her asking me, the thing was that it was the randomness of it, she came into the garage when i was doing work on my bike, and she sat down and looked all serious and said to me ' Joe, are you gay?' so I just looked at her about to reply saying no, when she said 'I'm not ashamed of you' Even before i could reply, so when i did say no, she looked at me kind of sadly, said ok, and walked out. My dad was pissed at her for even thinking I was, when i have a gf...

And the worst part is, my dad asked me as well, just to 'clear up a few things'...

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The thing is, she confronted me, and actually asked me if I was gay, when I told her i wasn't, she actually looked disapointed.

I wasn't too bothered about her asking me, the thing was that it was the randomness of it, she came into the garage when i was doing work on my bike, and she sat down and looked all serious and said to me ' Joe, are you gay?' so I just looked at her about to reply saying no, when she said 'I'm not ashamed of you' Even before i could reply, so when i did say no, she looked at me kind of sadly, said ok, and walked out. My dad was pissed at her for even thinking I was, when i have a gf...

And the worst part is, my dad asked me as well, just to 'clear up a few things'...

Haha thats classic. If that was me I'd milk it for all its worth!

She was probably dissapointed 'cos she'd already convinced herself that you were gay, and when you said you weren't, she thought you were just lying to yourself. I'm probably stating the obvious..

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This thread is hilarious, not only do half the people who have read/posted still think i'm gay but it's also highlighted just how easily people (as tomturd said) jump on the opinion bandwagon.

Seriously guys say what you think! Also for those of you who are so ridiculously homophobic it's sick, sort it out!! Gays are people who's genetics are f**ked up or who's upbringings have influenced them in an adverse way - it's not their fault!

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"I'm not gay, I have a poster, at home, with naked women on it"

(or something to that affect)

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I'll tell you something else I find interesting about this subject. It's that the only word that seems to exist in order to describe prejudice towards gay people is the word, homophobia. Surely not all disliking of gay people and thier activities arises from fear? Despite what I previously said, I can still imagine people having a dislike for reasons other than fear. Wouldn't different words to describe the different motives of dislikes towards homosexuality be more sensible?

A similar but different problem arises with the word racism. Racism exists in many different forms, levels or motives but we don't have words to directly describe those differences. Racism is a loaded word, usually with an extremely strong negative association. When somebody is racist to a very small degree (anyone, instantly see the problem with this potentially oxymoronic statement? ), say making a snap judgement based on something which I can't know based on something like say skin colour (an example - "this person is black which means they might mug me"). Something which I personally do to all people, in different ways, that I have unconsciencely divisioned from myself and something which i think 99% (that includes minority toward majority) of people do. Anyway, the problem is that labelling somebody a racist when they are doing something that ultimately isn't as bad as the assumptions that the word "racism" carries and is potentially not the intention or want of that individual can create a viewpoint that can be quite inaccurate and is effectively just another form of prejudice in itself. Because of the history that has contributed to peoples understanding of the word racism, other words should be coined to more accurately represent different different forms of race prejudice.

Sorry about how ill-constructed that second paragraph is. I'm stoned and knackered.

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we all thought mr.sam was gay, so we're all polite and say 'hey, thats cool!' whilst slowly edging away to put our backs to the wall.

This is what I was talking about in my last post. People who assume they're right and then say things like "we all..." as if they can't possibly see how anyone else could disagree with them. I certainly wouldn't back away from a gay person, even if they said they would like the f**k me, and I didn't think anything other that what I posted in reference to Sam's first post.

Unless someone else asks you to Anzo, try not to speak for everyone else. Everyone else might think differently.

Rich

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so ridiculously homophobic it's sick, sort it out!! Gays are people who's genetics are f**ked up

IPB Image

"I'm not gay, I have a poster, at home, with naked women on it....... at home"

(or something to that affect)

Heh I love that top line, slight irony sensed there.

I corrected the quote for you too (Y)

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Sam, you just contradicted yourself. You say being gay is alright but within that same sentence you describe it as "adverse" and the individuals who are gay as having "f**ked up genetics".

Adverse - preventing success or development; harmful; unfavourable. If it is adverse then really, is it ok?

And is genetics the means by which we should judge if something is right or wrong? To say genes that produce somebody as a homosexual are f**ked up is to effectively insinuate that a gay person is f**ked up at least to some amount.

I'm not having a go, just pointing out what I see as a statement that doesn't quite fit together.

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*senses rowly said something he shouldn't have done ;)

Haha I think that gays are funny. There just like girls but with cocks, they bitch about everything like when peter kay did the sketch about women at weddings

"oooh thats a nice dress, have a lovely day................Shes a f*cking cow that girl i hate her"

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This is what I was talking about in my last post. People who assume they're right and then say things like "we all..." as if they can't possibly see how anyone else could disagree with them. I certainly wouldn't back away from a gay person, even if they said they would like the f**k me, and I didn't think anything other that what I posted in reference to Sam's first post.

Unless someone else asks you to Anzo, try not to speak for everyone else. Everyone else might think differently.

Rich

It wasn't intended to sound like I was talking for everyone, sorry if It came across like that. 99% of the time, If I say something on this forum I will be joking. I consider speaking for 'everyone' in my posts, it was just a joke.

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Edit: Come to think about it, I dont know why I'm apologising for that. Thats not the way I meant it, just the way you twisted it around to make it sound like I'm talking for 'everyone'...why would I do that, it was a joke.

I enjoy making people laugh, if you take offence I'm not too bothered, I find it hard to believe you picked out my comment out of the list of 'shooting gays'...nice to see where your priorities lie, go complain about something worth complaining about...What about the comment about 'everyone' jumping on the bandwagon? Are you everyone? Did I say 'everyone' in a serious way? No...I didnt.

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I didn't twist your words at all, nor do I think you should apologise for them. You said 'we all,' implying that you were speaking for us all and that everyone agreed with you and thought the same way as you. Thats not true because at least I don't agree and by the look of things I'm not alone.

I picked out your post because 'we all' is a far less common term than 'everyone,' which implies an impersonal reference. However, I can't be sure of that as, in answer to your last question, I have no idea weather or not you said it seriously or as a joke, a problem every internet forum or other kind of electronic text based conversation will always have.

I'm not trying to start an argument for the sake of it, I'm trying to stop people being so f**king narrowminded. It really drives me to f**king tears when people can just blindly agree with something because 'thats the way its always been.' Like hunting, like equal rights for women or black people, like the heirarchy of wealth.

I very much think that this is something worth complaining about, because 200 years ago, I'd have been hung for saying this kind of thing. People say we've moved on and changed, but all that has really happened is that we've got better at covering our tracks. Think of Damalola Taylor. Think of Mattew Shepard. Think of what those people ever did to anyone, then think if they deserved what they got. I will lose a whole lot of faith (not that I expect anyone to care) in the human race if anyone says they did deserve it.

Rich

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Lets not forget the word 'gay' mean sexually attracted to the opposite sex. Nothing else. Any other personaltiy atribute has nothing to do with their sexuallity.

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gay people aint really that different i used to have gay friends until they moved away. (like 2)

they were pretty good banter like oh my god what is he wearing? and id be like shit i have that top too?!

and if i was reading nuts i would be like oooo they are nice tits their reply would be FAKE! and it would ruin it for me :(

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