planet x alan Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 hiwould it make my brakes perform better if i bled them with water? or does it just mean if i pop the hose then it wont go everywhere? doesnt it freeze in the hose in the winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
human_furball Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Take it from me, I have seen my friends bleed their hose with water and it isn't good, use magura blood thats what it's for.Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 it's about tobe sommer sowater is a good idea water mixed with a lil de icer is the way forward in winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roby James124 Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Take it from me, I have seen my friends bleed their hose with water and it isn't good, use magura blood thats what it's for.ChrisMe too i agree 2 years time nobody will be doing it. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koxx,mad scott Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 (edited) DONT DO IT , it will fresse them in the winter and sum time in the summer u get air in them with the heat . my mate did it he had to keep his bike in door in the winter. farmboy (scott) Edited March 19, 2006 by koxx,mad scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneone Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Personaly i use milehams clutch mineral oil. good stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewannnn Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 water is fine as i have been using it for ages over the winter, just put a bit of de-icer in it when it's winter.Also water responds better in the brake and feels stiffer, i have used it for months and there hasn't been a problem yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Nugent Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Personally, I use the proper stuff (Magura Blood) but I have heard that 'Johnson's Baby Oil' works well, don't know though?Don't use water as it is bad for the calipers and pistons and stuff like that, also you have to mix it with de-icer in the winter which is just more hastle.Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission man Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 me and a few of my m8s use cooking oil and that works well. my m8 tried water a couple of times when he didn't have cooking oil and it was weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Sorry for my absense. right er goesWater wil lgive a lighter and smother feeling mate!!!Bleed it with warm or hot waetr to clean the system out of the old oil, thats the biggets down fall of most on here. Thats how they get issues.Mines never frozen on me, if it does on you your sitting around too much ride more. Admiterly i have my bikes in my room when not rididng.I've ran water, Wd40 oil not the creamy yuck stuff of it, cooking oil, Olbas oil, Piss, still vimto and ribena all never gave me probs. as long as you flush it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneone Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 (edited) Sorry for my absense.Its cool no one noticed.You can basicaly use anything in maguras for a sort time. a mate of mine used milk shake just to prove this!Pete how those homemade pads coming along? how much for a set? what they like on a light grind? Edited March 19, 2006 by wayneone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Its cool no one noticed.You can basicaly use anything in maguras for a sort time. a mate of mine used milk shake just to prove this!Pete how those homemade pads coming along? how much for a set? what they like on a light grind?Hey Wayne,really...dam. Must try harder. i'm back!!!! but not rididngReally really good. Going with the 2 compounds fully now. £12 posted 1st class on both. There put into std Magura backings so all safe and sound fully tried and tested. Will fit mr heatsinks CNC backings, what i had been using. They work on a grind only!!! Grinds are what makes trials happen and safely. Seam okay on a light grind but as ever fititng soemthing new such as pads you should do a fresh grind, same goes for fitting new BB and headset, always grease the frame up. Hope that helps dude. Contact me for more muckaPetey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneone Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Hey Wayne,really...dam. Must try harder. i'm back!!!! but not rididngReally really good. Going with the 2 compounds fully now. £12 posted 1st class on both. There put into std Magura backings so all safe and sound fully tried and tested. Will fit mr heatsinks CNC backings, what i had been using. They work on a grind only!!! Grinds are what makes trials happen and safely. Seam okay on a light grind but as ever fititng soemthing new such as pads you should do a fresh grind, same goes for fitting new BB and headset, always grease the frame up. Hope that helps dude. Contact me for more muckaPeteyYeah might take you up on that matey ill email you if i want some. £12 seems a bargain i was going to buy cousts but there expensive. My zoo! pads still have a few mm on them so we will see how it pans out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff... Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Water is much better but you will need to add a tad of anti freez in the cold parts of the winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaffacakes Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 (edited) Pete's pads are sexual. They are so loud and they have insane lockage, good combo.edit: oh yeah.Water is fine, I havn't had any problems with it. Mine hasn't even froze this winter and it's lying down in my garden most nights. Edited March 19, 2006 by Jaffacakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Me too i agree 2 years time nobody will be doing it.Rob Over 3 years ago they were. It's not like trials has only just started If water is "Bad for the calipers, pistons and stuff", how come the vast majority of people don't have trouble with it? I've got a ridiculously strong anti-freeze solution in my brakes, and they're holding their water fine. No leaks, ever. Same goes for everyone else I know who's bled with water.I can't even be bothered going into the reasons why Magura oil is the standard thing, so I'll just hint.Can Magura charge you extortionate amounts for the water in your tap? Can they charge you extortionate amounts for oil in a little bottle?Do all people ride trials? Do all people live in places where the temperature's over 0°C?That should hopefully get the idea across... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 (edited) Mark is the only trials rider that thinks well outside the box here guys....take bloody notes i wouldJaffa you still deaf then from em??? Edited March 19, 2006 by Wright Pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Marks ridiculously spread out postWhy are you leaving huge line spaces in your posts? Anyway all this talk of freezing has never affected my brakes. I bled with pure water about....4 months ago and throughout the winter NOTHING has happened to them. Still as beasty as ever, and I live on the coast Water is the way to go, as mark said its frigging free and not £10 for 300 ml ........Also gives a better feeling to the leverFinally it doesn't mess up your cyclinders as some people believe. Even if the cyclinders are made of steel, what other substance do you require to create rust?Oxygen....Think about it There we go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 It's not me doing it, my TF's f**ked up. For the last week or so, when I do one line spacing, it ends up spacing it like that. It's a bit of a bitch 'cos I keep going between paragraphs as per usual, but it f**ks it up. I dunno. I'm hoping I've just mashed my fat hands on a button on the control panel above the post and f**ked it up somehow Weird thing is is that when I go to delete the extra spacers, I have to press delete twice for the big middle gap (on the same line), 'cos there's some invisible shit in the middle of it. Tres weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 Mags are made form magnesum alloy, hesne Maguras. It's fine, though once heated enough it goes bang. I got bord thats how i found out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAB Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 As i've been a mechanic for 12 years and fitted, serviced, fitted and owned more maguras that you've had hot dinners, and i've had the pleasure of flushing all sorts of sh#t out of them from water to engine oil.It's really simple, and i hate to repeat my self but maguras are designed to work on magura blood!!!!! it's not a gimmic to make money, it's not a con, it's fact!! it's what keeps them working sweet..If you own a hope disc put water in that and see wat happens!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Take it from me, I have seen my friends bleed their hose with water and it isn't good, use magura blood thats what it's for.ChrisI'm guessing they're problem is they only bled the hoses with water... you need to do the whole brake Whats not good about it then? As i've been a mechanic for 12 years and fitted, serviced, fitted and owned more maguras that you've had hot dinners, and i've had the pleasure of flushing all sorts of sh#t out of them from water to engine oil.It's really simple, and i hate to repeat my self but wacko.gif maguras are designed to work on magura blood!!!!! it's not a gimmic to make money, it's not a con, it's fact!! it's what keeps them working sweet..If you own a hope disc put water in that and see wat happens!!!!!But if you were a good mechanic you would know that discs heat up, so if you put water into it there could always be the possiblity of the water getting too warm in the hose and expanding or even boiling. Magura's aren't designed for other pads are they? But i'm going to be guessing that theres hardly anybody riding that is still using blacks or kool stop pads. My brake has been bled with water since last year and it runs so much nicer than when it had water in it. I have never had any issues with it apart from when i first did it and there was still some oily gunk left in there, this made it feel horrible which is what the majority of people do the first time they bleed the maggies with water all i did was rebleed it and all the oil was gone. Since then i've just periodically rebled it every couple of months and its been absolutely fine.Don't be a pussy, put water in your brakes and a grind on your rim!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derenkirby Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Why are you leaving huge line spaces in your posts? Anyway all this talk of freezing has never affected my brakes. I bled with pure water about....4 months ago and throughout the winter NOTHING has happened to them. Still as beasty as ever, and I live on the coast Water is the way to go, as mark said its frigging free and not £10 for 300 ml ........Also gives a better feeling to the leverFinally it doesn't mess up your cyclinders as some people believe. Even if the cyclinders are made of steel, what other substance do you require to create rust?Oxygen....Think about it There we go Theres oxygen in water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Theres oxygen in waterBut its bound to hydrogen atoms you need actual air in your brakes for them to corrode and it shouldn't be there anyway if yuo've bled it properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wigs_gu Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 Bleed them with water !, i've always had my magura's bleed with water becuase it's alot snappier and just generally a nicer feel.Water also gives the break a more stiffer feel at the lever.Oil is thicker than water so it don't have the same feel or response like water, just go bleed your maggie with water you will soon notice the differance from oil to water.Wigs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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