Vw's On The Trials Forum

[nmt_oli]

You see, i dont like those wheels Si. There good on that car, but i dotn think theyl suit mine.

Heres a selection of wheel i like: "place your bets..... NOW!"

The ones Si Likes!

G60 Steels, Silver

G60 steels, black

Ronal Turbos

BBS

ATS Cup

Porsche

[Smo™]

ATS Cup sprayed matte black.

[nmt_oli]

Went to no-rice last night, got to know a few new peeps and picked up some nice bargains!

Leather seats (front only):

256mm Brake set up (needs cleaning up):

Also spoke to the guy with the porsche wheels, and we'll probably do a part ex. A few cars at no rice had the wheels on, i like them but they do seem to be a love or hate option on golfs.

Also, interesting rat look bonnet idea! Someone suggested it previously and i didnt think it woudl look good, but it actually looks great. Pics not great quality unfortunately.

Rust!

[Prawny Baby]

oil you fecking pleb.......

theres rat look, with matt black paint, then theres a f**king rusty shed.....

the rust idea looks and sounds AWFUL. dont be a pleb, just spray the whole motor matt and itll look awesome with glossy bits!

personally, i reckon the porsche wheels look RAD!

[nmt_oli]

Nick, the rusts just an idea, and can be done easily on a seperate bonnet to try out if desired! The picture honestly doesnt do that car justice.

The wheels do indeed look good, and have just sold my old mini wheels (the 12"ers i wont be using) so effectively its a straight swap, my two sets of wheels for the porsche ones and adaptors.

The leather seats are nice, need a little bit of a clean. shame the dirvers one is quite worn (not quite as supportive as the passenger one). Might have to see if i can put the foam from another seat in it or someting. still, will be a nice edition and they are very comfy.

EDIT:

Some better Q pics from Adrian on no-rice forum.

Mk2 slammed on 13x8 Minilights.

Rusty bonnet again.

Porsche Rims on Mk2:

Edited February 15, 2007 by nmt_oli

[craigjames]

those porsche teledials look lush oli go for it mate, the rusty bonnet on the other hand i wont condone, its just wrong!

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RAT! do it oli, looks proper good i rekon. porche wheels looks dialed.

[RicH_87]

personally i think ratty vw's should only be authentic. i.e don't rust panels on purpose just for the look. the only charm about the 'rat look' is that it's 100% authentic and a result of untouched wear and tear. Its like buying a new pair of trainers and jumping in a muddy puddle, they just look a mess, not like a faithful 10 year old pair.

still think the porsche wheels look good though.

also good place to post this...

VW Bus Ball

[nmt_oli]

Personally I think ratty VW's should only be authentic. i.e. don't rust panels on purpose just for the look. The only charm about the 'rat look' is that it's 100% authentic and a result of untouched wear and tear.

I have to say, I kind of agree with you there. The proper rat look is more "natural", but you will find there are not many rat look cars that are 100% authentic; pretty much all will be influenced in some way. The proper rat look also suits Air-cooled car much better than water cooled.

The look I’m going for is more the hoodride look, it going to be neat (if I can get the dents out) just a matt colour, its also going to have the trim gloss painted. I’m trying to be a bit different really, experimenting on a budget. The bonnet thing is something I can do on a spare, and change if I don't like it. As I want my car to last, and be practical, I don’t want to have major panels rusting. Maybe it won’t work as well on my car, as on that example it’s contrasting against very good shiny paintwork- that is NOT a rat car. Some people love it, some hate it, but it does get attention. There's a massive debate thread on Edition38 regarding the Rat look, and should it be proper or not etc. People have really huge differences in opinion.

My car is a daily driver, I don't want immaculate paintwork, and it’s harder to keep it looking good. I’m going for a different look, one I haven’t seen before. Someone (I think it may have been Fred) suggested a rusty bonnet, and I didn’t like the idea, but having seen it, it looks good. It wouldn’t work on some coloured cars that’s for sure. I’m spending a lot on the interior of my car, and will be sound deadending it, to make it comfortable. Currently my car does have the proper rat look, dents, hammerite splodges, rust spots, but due to the age of the car it will never look good from that.

I want people to see my car and not see it as a heap of junk with some alloys (like it looks now); I can't afford a mint paintjob, so I’m taking a risk on an idea with influences from the hoodride and rat scene, and the OEM+ brigade. Everyone’s opinion differs, not everyone will like it, but it will be respectable- something that nick pointed out to me. My car as it is, and possibly a 'proper' rat look car could be seen as a shit box car, if I turn up for interviews etc like that it doesn’t set a great first impression.

I know I probably shouldn’t care what people think of my car, its mine after all- and that is the deciding factor- but the truth is I do care, not many people can say they don't care what others think to some extent. That’s why I’m posting my ideas here, trying to get a feeling of opinions, judge peoples responses. I’m still doing it for me, but sometimes you can be blinkered when you’ve got a project. For example, when most young guys buy a mini they instantly want big wheels and sportspacks, which kind of ruins the car, and invariably regret it later when it’s too late, panels have been cut etc.

Realistically, my golf has minimal resale value, there are much better examples out there, I have crash damage, and rust- I would get much more than the cars worth if I broke the car. You may say why don’t I just get a new car? Ive invested in this one, it has a years T&T and most major things have been done, it’s a good reliable motor. I enjoy my projects, doing something like this is fun. I’m not going to be able to afford a real nice car till after uni, so I’m not going to try. Insurance is fun enough as it is; even though I’m 20 I’m still looking at 3550-£700 for this year TPFT, as I only have 1 full year driving (medical reasons) and 1 year no claims.

I want to make my car unique, comfortable and practical to get me through uni. If I muck up on this project, I live and learn, no great loss.

Blimey, that turned into a bit of a rant! Basically, I agree with you, but I still want to give it a go!

[philth]

My GTi.....about to make a few cosmetic changes...OEM bodys ***

Its had a few Porsche's for a sunday afternoon treat....makes for a nice expression on their owners faces.

The good stuff:

-Samco Turbo inlet hose.

-Forge 007 Diverter + spring kit.

-Giac Chip.

-GHL 2.5" Downpipe.

-Techtonics 2.5" Cat back.

-Borla Muffler. (Exhaust is silent @ Idle, and not obnoxiously loud when driven)

-12lb solid flywheel

-Upgrade VR6 clutch

-Poly Control arm bushings

-EIP dogbone mount

-H&R Cup kit

-Brembo Crossdrilled rotor up front.

-18 x 8.5" Flik Artiks wheels.

-Forge Front mount intercooler.

-Boost Gauge.

-Autotech Short shift kit.

-Short shifter.

-N75 race valve.

-Joey modded lights.

-Cold Air intake, + summer extension.

-Eyelids.

Car Dynoed @ 208.5hp, 286 torque @ the wheels...before the Front mount.

I hate this pic...but its the only recent with Front mount.

Like I could ever have owned this is I still lived in England...I like my kidneys but would sell one.

Edited February 17, 2007 by philth

[RicH_87]

love it, i'm planning on getting either a mk4 gti or a gt tdi, not sure yet.

obviously it wouldn't be as badass as yours.

[Ben Cox]

My GTi.....about to make a few cosmetic changes...OEM bodys ***

Its had a few Porsche's for a sunday afternoon treat....makes for a nice expression on their owners faces.

The good stuff:

-Samco Turbo inlet hose.

-Forge 007 Diverter + spring kit.

-Giac Chip.

-GHL 2.5" Downpipe.

-Techtonics 2.5" Cat back.

-Borla Muffler. (Exhaust is silent @ Idle, and not obnoxiously loud when driven)

-12lb solid flywheel

-Upgrade VR6 clutch

-Poly Control arm bushings

-EIP dogbone mount

-H&R Cup kit

-Brembo Crossdrilled rotor up front.

-18 x 8.5" Flik Artiks wheels.

-Forge Front mount intercooler.

-Boost Gauge.

-Autotech Short shift kit.

-Short shifter.

-N75 race valve.

-Joey modded lights.

-Cold Air intake, + summer extension.

-Eyelids.

Car Dynoed @ 208.5hp, 286 torque @ the wheels...before the Front mount.

I hate this pic...but its the only recent with Front mount.

Like I could ever have owned this is I still lived in England...I like my kidneys but would sell one.

oh wow, i just done the sex wee all over the laptop!!!! that really is car porn right there

[Joe_Elding]

Oh my. that Gtis a beaut. WELL jealous.

[Prawny Baby]

My GTi.....about to make a few cosmetic changes...OEM bodys ***

Its had a few Porsche's for a sunday afternoon treat....makes for a nice expression on their owners faces.

The good stuff:

-Samco Turbo inlet hose.

-Forge 007 Diverter + spring kit.

-Giac Chip.

-GHL 2.5" Downpipe.

-Techtonics 2.5" Cat back.

-Borla Muffler. (Exhaust is silent @ Idle, and not obnoxiously loud when driven)

-12lb solid flywheel

-Upgrade VR6 clutch

-Poly Control arm bushings

-EIP dogbone mount

-H&R Cup kit

-Brembo Crossdrilled rotor up front.

-18 x 8.5" Flik Artiks wheels.

-Forge Front mount intercooler.

-Boost Gauge.

-Autotech Short shift kit.

-Short shifter.

-N75 race valve.

-Joey modded lights.

-Cold Air intake, + summer extension.

-Eyelids.

Car Dynoed @ 208.5hp, 286 torque @ the wheels...before the Front mount.

Like I could ever have owned this is I still lived in England...I like my kidneys but would sell one.

now thats a serious spec for a 20vt golf! exactly the kinda thing id like my A3 to be one day.....

do you find you get much vibration with the uprated dog bone? ive heard it makes everything shake a fair bit! the N75 race valve is just ECS tunnings version of the N75J isnt it?

what sorta boost are you running with that setup? and what turbo? its obviously a DBW engine, is that with a ko3 or ko3S?

either way, impressive figures!

[James Quigley]

I fooking LOVE that mk4 golf G-TIT

Black on black is also a sexual look.

[craigjames]

it looks the sex, i want one *jumps around and stamps feet* not for a another few years, want some money left over from selling the mini otherwise i'd get one

[philth]

now thats a serious spec for a 20vt golf! exactly the kinda thing id like my A3 to be one day.....

do you find you get much vibration with the uprated dog bone? ive heard it makes everything shake a fair bit! the N75 race valve is just ECS tunnings version of the N75J isnt it?

what sorta boost are you running with that setup? and what turbo? its obviously a DBW engine, is that with a ko3 or ko3S?

either way, impressive figures!

Stock Ko3....basically tuned the airways. Small turbo big power.... (I like saying that, but its big turbo ready if the ko3 dies)

Spikes @ 21psi...with the N75 (yes J valve) the turbo boosts to 20psi very quick , almost instant with the small turbo, starts boosting 2700rpm...the N75 valve makes the curve smoother and longer, slowly drops to about 10psi a smidge over 6000. But you shift I the power range not taking it to redline.

Didn't notice any vibrations with the dog bone...shifting seems clean and crisper...noticed big change in power transfer lag.

+Cheers for the compliments I love my car...may just be american prices but I really have spent alot of money on the car. Oddly most 90% of the trials rides in florida drive DUBs so, traded a few bike parts ant the like....just to work you up a bit, I got those wheels 18x8.5 for $300 yummmy (i'll let you do the conversion)

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philth, id forgotten about your car.

Black front mounted intercooler and black boost pipes make it look sooo mean. I love it.

[Prawny Baby]

Stock Ko3....basically tuned the airways. Small turbo big power.... (I like saying that, but its big turbo ready if the ko3 dies)

Spikes @ 21psi...with the N75 (yes J valve) the turbo boosts to 20psi very quick , almost instant with the small turbo, starts boosting 2700rpm...the N75 valve makes the curve smoother and longer, slowly drops to about 10psi a smidge over 6000. But you shift I the power range not taking it to redline.

awesome!

i love the way the ko3 spools up SO fast being such a small turbo!

the 208bhp sounds about right, but the 286 torque is in Nm right? being around 210lb ft? 286lb ft is remapped S3 with KO4 torque!

still, sounds like an awesome car to drive!

im having my A3 remapped in about 8 weeks time, tempted to fit the n75J afterwards as well to get the most from it!

do you ever hit limp mode running the J valve? i assume the car was mapped with the standard valve then the J valve fitted?

awsome motor, very jealous!

[philth]

awesome!

i love the way the ko3 spools up SO fast being such a small turbo!

the 208bhp sounds about right, but the 286 torque is in Nm right? being around 210lb ft? 286lb ft is remapped S3 with KO4 torque!

still, sounds like an awesome car to drive!

im having my A3 remapped in about 8 weeks time, tempted to fit the n75J afterwards as well to get the most from it!

do you ever hit limp mode running the J valve? i assume the car was mapped with the standard valve then the J valve fitted?

awsome motor, very jealous!

I have the dyno sheet to comfirm it...I was surprised + everyone else at the torque, especialy in the Florida heat. Saying that I always new my car pulled silly hard in 2nd and 3rd.

The only time I've had limp mode was before I install the turbo inlet and down pipe....seemed like the car/turbo was getting too hot.

Best part about it is, my dad would usually be telling me its too fast, its a waste of money and petrol....I still get 28mpg lovin it (he kind of respects me for building a true drivers car, not some slammed, doesn't handle, petrol guzler), kinda why I dont want to change anything motor wise. Starting on the interior and visuals now.

[Waddy]

got my new wheels yesturday, £37 with toyo proxies well chuffed, although one has a puncture, but thats only a frew quid to fix, will be fitting new head gasket, radiator, gear relay shaft and new rear wheel bearing at the weekend, and hopefully be getting some vr6 calipers from the scrappers. does anybody know what i will need off of the vr6 to run the brakes on my mk2?,, will i just need the calipers and bracket, or will i need the hubs aswell?..

[nmt_oli]

If the Vr6 ones are the 288 you may have problems. I am not sure of how compatable they are, i think the 288mm disks are only available in 5x100 wheel bolt pattern for the mk3 VR6.

I am upgrading from 239mm (8v gti) to 280mm (G60) calipers and need hubs, carriers, calpiers, 22mm master cylinder. If you have a 256mm set up (16v gti) already, then you will have the correct hubs and master.

[nmt_oli]

Big bump, and update on ghetto golf project.

Un-Ghetto Golf ,stage 1: parts whoring. Status: complete.

Well, I have spent far too much money, and collected lots of nice tasty parts. here we go:

As pictured previously:

Leather seats

Porka Wheels

256mm Brakes (not goign to 280 any more, Noicy lost the calipers:P)

Second hand:

Spare clocks to try and fix my fuel gauge, also come with extra white inserts and white heater control inserts.

Black Carpets

Centre console

Carpeted parcel shelf side supports

Front subframe + wishbones + ARB, rebushed with new Poly bushes.

New front crossmember with new polybushes + engine mount.

Rear big bumper (still lookign for front one)

Audi door handles (weld in pieces of audi door, most scary thing!)

Almost new tyres for new wheels, pickup at next no rice.

New:

Central locking kit

60 sq foot of stick on sound deadening mat

2 gallon spectrum paint on sound deadening

Under bonnet sound deadening/heatshield

Front + rear polished alloy, on car adjustable strut braces.

3 farad power cap

Chrome interior door handles

Chrome gear surround

Chrome bezels for clocks (hopefully)

Chrome gas strut bonnet lifters

Audi TT pedal covers

Materials:

Mdf + fibreglass for custom sub enclosure

Lots of filler and fibreglass paste.

Lots of wet and dry paper

Primer

Filler Primer

Plastic Primer

Many big cans of halfords Satin black

There is probably a few other things that ive forgotten. It'l pretty much be a new car

Un-Ghetto Golf ,stage 2: strip down Status: T minus 2 days

Edited March 27, 2007 by nmt_oli

[nmt_oli]

Ok, this weekend just gone has been spent tinkering with the mini on saturday (see mini thread), and tidying my workshop on sunday ready for the work happening this weekend.

Its quite scary how much stuff, tools and parts, i have accumulated in a year since i gained my workshop.

Workshop last year:

Workshop on saturday:

Tidied workshop:

hmm stereo!

Tasty goodies to note:

Rear big bumper £5!

Strut braces

All the little bits and bobs are on the shelves and on various boxes. new subframe, wishbones, crossmember have only just arrived so not pictured, new brake set up is in the back of my car.

Will be updating frequently from this weekend onwards as project gets underway. Will hopefully be going home tomoorow night, car parked up and stripped be end of thurday.

Once stripped assess what needs doing rust wise.

While filler is drying, start on sound deadening and vice versa. Aim to have car sound deadened and painted by wednesday/thurday. obviously weather could play a big part in this.

Then its time to fit central locking kit, and make new boot build.

Refit interior/fit new interior.

fit new front subframe ect.

depending on time, paint and fit or just refit exterior trim.

New wheels may be a wek or two late, as im tempted to refurb them while tyres are off as one has some big scratches.

[nmt_oli]

Ok, Car is now all stripped inside. Everything out minus dash and wheel!

Ive had to chuck a fair bit of factory sound deadeneing from the footwells, was so wet it was starting to rot. Leak turned our to be a blocked drain hole in scuttle, with a load of crap built up behind it. Water built up and dripped through bonnet release cable grommit, down onto back of fusebox !!!!! , and into footwell!

Old greyness

Saturated sound deadening

Had to be careful, alsmost tempted to make the car a stripped out mean machine! But no, that look will be saved for the mini. This needs to be a nice daily driver.

Typical britain, Rain stopped play for a little while, so had to fiddle in the wokshop. put another coat of paint on boot plinth, and sprayed my rear cards. Look much better, but could prob do with another coat.

When it dryed up a bit, i set to work with the first of the sound deadening, the stick on stuff. Roller in hand off we went!

In the crevices

By the time i finished i had 2 layers in the wheel well, 1 on the boot floor, 1 on the arches, 2 on the inside of quater panels, and 1 on the inside of the rear panel.

Also got the expanding foam out to fill cavities in the new tailgate, and filled the gap between the two skins behind the rear windows in the quater panels. Im not letting any of my base escape!

The knock test shows a noticeable difference in the panels already, cant wait to get 2 layers in the boot with spectrum paint on top!

Ive used half my stick-on stuff, and need to do the front doors 2 layers, and the floor one layer. hopefully will have enough!

Need to get the car drivable again in the morning, going for a park session with some mates from back home, and picking up my front big-bumper from bournemouth. Chuck 2 seats in (pickign someone up) bolt on window winders and away we go lol! should be fun.

Edited March 30, 2007 by nmt_oli