planet-x-boy Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 In the past week i seemed to have bent two pairs of forks, Koxx Forks and Tuff Guy Forks. They have both bent outwards near enough at the same place and the same amount. I no im not a smooth rider but i no im not a harsh rider to.Do you think there could be something wrong with the set up or geometry of the bike or just me being unluky?Cheers Brett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endohopper Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Running a front disc ? Attempting many hooks ? Not sure what could be causing this , it seems unlikely to be a setup fault . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet-x-boy Posted February 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I do run a front disc and i do do hooks but i would expect forks to go in a few month not going in a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Maybe the tech your using for front hooks is doing it. Putting too much weight down maybe.Not too sure I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Not a smooth rider + front disc and front hooking + cheap onza tuff guys = bent forks. I would never try front hooks on tuff guys. especially if i wasn't able to do them smoothly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Geary Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 A Tuff guys are quite strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet-x-boy Posted February 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 I can do hooks very well and quite smooth actually so i dont see why hooking is the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Punk Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Even the old models with the glued on steerer tube?Think twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave85 Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 How good you are and how smooth you are is largely beside the point when your hanging your entire weight plus a lot of momentum off the forks Were they both new sets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) Hooks apply all of your weight onto your front wheel which is hanging on the edge of a wall or rock, do you not think that this eventually causes them to break? All the major stress is on the forks, headset and front end of the frame, this is why it quite often wrecks cheaper headsets and can crack frames about 2 inches from the end of the top tube.And as trials punk said the glued steerers are not at all strong and usually go quite quickly when your doing this kind of move.Maybe invest in some better forks? Edit: dave's just too damn fast! Edited February 24, 2006 by Krisboats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet-x-boy Posted February 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 I used the koxx forks for a little bit but it was the first time out on the tuff guys. What would people recomend for very strong forks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street trials rider Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 get something made from 4130 to get a idea of how harsh/smooth bret is watch his second video in this locationhttp://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....showtopic=70811 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Poyzer @ Onza Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Just to correct some mis information. Tuf Guys are 100% 4130 Cromolyand the steerer tubes are not and never have been glued. The only time bonding is used, is for steerers to crowns where the metals are incompatible for welding, ie. cromo steel steerers into alloy forks or 6061 steerers into 7005 crowns. Our shortly to be relaunched Fall Guy forks are 4130 cromoly and they are totally heat treated again after construction which makes them one of the strongest and stiffest in their class. Weight and geometry improvements are being made. For your information we no longer use bonded steerers in any of our forks. We have now produced in excess of 7000 Tuf Guy forks and although it is the cheapest in the Guy forks range it has the least number of problems in terms of warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Just to correct some mis information. Tuf Guys are 100% 4130 Cromolyand the steerer tubes are not and never have been glued. The only time bonding is used, is for steerers to crowns where the metals are incompatible for welding, ie. cromo steel steerers into alloy forks or 6061 steerers into 7005 crowns. Our shortly to be relaunched Fall Guy forks are 4130 cromoly and they are totally heat treated again after construction which makes them one of the strongest and stiffest in their class. Weight and geometry improvements are being made. For your information we no longer use bonded steerers in any of our forks. We have now produced in excess of 7000 Tuf Guy forks and although it is the cheapest in the Guy forks range it has the least number of problems in terms of warranty.Will the new forks be available for mods? (I'm not aware of many mod forks) also tehe i just got the guy forks thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayneone Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Will the new forks be available for mods? (I'm not aware of many mod forks) also tehe i just got the guy forks thing Me too how stupid am i! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunkey_monkey_boy Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 although it is the cheapest in the Guy forks range it has the least number of problems in terms of warranty.is that a fact or has it got alot to do with the fact that they're cheap forks fitted to cheap bikes, therefor being riden by begginers who probably upgrade them before they break. its also probably got alot to do with everyone expecting them to be cheap shit and when they break they chuck them away rather than trying to get a new set out of you...i'm sure they're a good value for money fork but i'm very suspicious of anyone who tells me their cheapest fork has the least warrenty issues, as far as i can see that may be true but i'm damn sure its got nothing to do with the forks and alot to do with the owners... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 i agree to a point, but ive seen shitloads of decent riders with tuf guys, hell even i used to use them but yeah, most of the time i dont feel the need to send cheaper parts back if they break, generally they have broken for a reason-abuse and they didnt cost much so i dont mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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