wilky_mod_legend2 Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Hi,I have problems backwheeling over 30" on my zona, what is the best way of backwheeling, like, bunnyhop, pedal into it, tap ( yes on a mod ) and how high should i get from each method?thank in advanceCheersWilky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 On a mod I'm tempted to say that bunny hopping would give you the highest but it all depends on you. What your strengths are. On a 26" tapping is the only real way to backwheel high but I have seen it done on a mod but it is god damn hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 what aboot 24 fred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwannaleeson! Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 i ride mod and for me, bunny hopping is the only way i can get up any high wall to back wheel. . . .i just cant get my head around the pedal hopping thing at the moment (really need to practice it) and i can only tap sloped walls. I also find that goin to front wheel and then swappin to back really quickly, like ben savage does is a good way but bunny hopping is still best for me. Having said that, it kinda depends on what length of bike you have. . i have no idea of the length of the zona but i should imagine its quite difficult. I use a monty 221 ti with zoo risers and its easy to do it on.anyways, yeah, just sorta relating to what fred said, bunny hopping does work . . just depends what you find easiest ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Give it some power into your kicks and grunt aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-BAD Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 i tryed tyre tapping on my 20", found it hard, but i dont mind pedal hopping. try sidehopping to back wheelits well better it also helps with getting higher on your sidehops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
011001000110010101110010 Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 what aboot 24 fred?Bunny hop or pedal kick. Staples can tap his 24 way to high for my liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Boy Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Hi,I have problems backwheeling over 30" on my zona, what is the best way of backwheeling, like, bunnyhop, pedal into it, tap ( yes on a mod ) and how high should i get from each method?thank in advanceCheersWilkyJames Sheridan is pretty good at backwheels, he usually starts hopping first then hops straight on the wall.Or he just bunnyhops to back wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 have you done 30 now! i didnt realise you had improved that much!learn to tap then you can be one of the talented few who can tap a mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBProductions Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I'm glad you asked this as I've been out tonight and can't for the life of me nail 6 blue crates to back wheel using the pedal kick method. I can pedal kick and land on two wheels on top of it but its doing my rocker in getting higher. I have learnt a bit to tap but can only do it on five blue crates. So any helps amongst you pro's on here ?????!?!?Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 I can do 7 crates on my Leeson mod easily, but i am so close to doing 8 but (the same height as one totally verticle pallet) i just havnt managed it yet. I'm doing this by either bunnyhopping or pedal hopping and clearing the front wheel completely.I want to learn how to tap, i get the height but not the distance, it just shoots me straigt up, but i cant get forward, what do i need to do?-Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 (edited) have you done 30 now! i didnt realise you had improved that much!learn to tap then you can be one of the talented few who can tap a modTapping a mod isn't all that hard. I can do it and I'm shite. roll, pull, bash, hope .... I find I can get pretty much the same height whichever way I do it although bunnyhops have a slight edge. Taps are the way to go if you don't have much run-up though.to get the forward motion you probably just need to go faster and tap higher up the obstacle . The lower you hit it the more you bounce up and back . Edited February 21, 2006 by poopipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 I cant tap so at the moment Im using the 3-pedal-surgeStart with wrong foot forward, then turn 1 (to right foot), 2 (to bad foot) then on the 3 lean back (not yank) to wheelie and as your good foot comes up tuck up Working quite well for me at the mo. I find when Im rolling I get too excited and go to fast and then my final pedal(s) just send me flying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQuiT-man Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Bunnyhop if you want to go obscenely high. My main way of backwheeling is pedal-upping, but I can only get around 38" to backwheel maximum that way, yet as soon as I learn to bunnyhop, I found myself going on to a new world, you can just get sooo much more power. Scarier though IMO, so I only tend to bunnyhop to bashguard, not backwheel (incase I miss or something, in which case I would die), but got around 54" on my zona to bashguard with no problems.Bunnyhopping is the way to go really high, seriously.. Then try bunnyhops into hooks for crazy height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Bunnyhop if you want to go obscenely high. My main way of backwheeling is pedal-upping, but I can only get around 38" to backwheel maximum that way, yet as soon as I learn to bunnyhop, I found myself going on to a new world, you can just get sooo much more power. Scarier though IMO, so I only tend to bunnyhop to bashguard, not backwheel (incase I miss or something, in which case I would die), but got around 54" on my zona to bashguard with no problems.Bunnyhopping is the way to go really high, seriously.. Then try bunnyhops into hooks for crazy height.Tapping a mod ain't difficult...if you learn it at the same time as bunnyhopping up stuff. I kinda 'accidentally' tap sometimes, which is mainly just a side effect of me taking off a bit late when going straight to back wheel. When I'm backwheeling I find that my front wheel is incredibly close to the corner of the object anyway.But, I do seem to remeber bunnyhopping getting me more height - but that was back in the days when going to backwheel was still a dream. I coiuld bunnyhop onto a picnic table without breaking a sweat on my stock, and on my mod could get even higher...I guess it's down to comfort zones. I'm just re-learning to ride at the mo, and although I find it more comfortable and controlled to pedalhop smaller stuff, when it comes to big stuff I just naturally feel the urge to hop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 I used to 'accidentally' tap too, but 'real' tapping gives you so much more boost But yeah, for backwheeling, this is a post I did on OTN and on here...Pedal-upRoll at the wall like you mean it. Focus on where you wanna land. Bad foot at about the 12 o'clock position.As you get nearer the wall, start pedalling hard, whilst crouching down over the bars, ready to spring up.As you pull up and your good foot comes round to the top of the stroke, start really throwing your body up, and lifting the bars up hard with your arms.Extend your body vertically, meaning you can suck the bike up underneath you higher. Just spring up super hard, whilst still pulling the bars hard.Throw the bars forwards once the front's cleared the wall fully, and bring the back of the bike up with your hips, knees and ankles. Just suck it up That should do it, really...From this thread, and the up-coming section on TF. Anyhoo, that's pretty much it for pedalling up. Bunnyhopping on the Zonas is a bit different to a lot of other mods out there. Montys seem to just sorta be quite nice and predictable to hop, but with the Zona 'cos it's longer it's almost like there's less 'feel'. I've found a couple of times I've tried bunnyhopping but it just doesn't go as high as I thought and I plough full-on into the wall. It's still more fun than slapping kittens when it's right though, so just practise I guess. If you've got the basic technique for tapping, pedalling-up or bunnyhopping, it really is basically just a case of giving it some more beans and just refining the technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greetings Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) ive been learning to tap on a mod for 2 years, and still can't get higher than about 105cm to back wheel. funny is i can do it much higher on a stock. going for bunnhops now because ive finally got myself a short jumpy frame. my piece of advice is not to bother with taps unless you want to learn it just for the sake of it. IMO its a great feeling when you tap objects of up to 80cm Mark what happens between the 4 and 5th pic? Edited February 22, 2006 by Inur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir trial a lot Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Its wiered, since i started ive always tapped on my mod and not had any problems. People say its impossible but i do it no bother. Must just be technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Its wiered, since i started ive always tapped on my mod and not had any problems. People say its impossible but i do it no bother. Must just be technique. Like I said, if you start tapping to begin with, it's easy. If you start trying to do it after a long time of *not*, it's difficult - because you're effectively learning a new move from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 Mark what happens between the 4 and 5th pic? Pretty much just lifting ridiculously fast That's basically why there isn't a pic there, 'cos I don't think the frames on Mat's cam could really pic up any fine detail in there. But yeah, it's basically just lifting the bike up with your arms. It's more like you keep your torso in the same place and just lift the rest of the bike up around you, if that helps clear it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulltrialser Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 i tap on my team and i find it quite easy but anything above 42 is abit .Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 There doesn't seem to be aaaaaall that much point tapping mods? I mean, if you look at the top mod riders like Benito for example, he just f**king beasts everything half-pedal style, be it pedal-up or bunnyhop, and seems to do super well. I mean, taps are fun, but 'cos of the limits of mods maybe it's not the best idea?Not saying that's 'fact' or anything before anyone says anything, just an idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) There doesn't seem to be aaaaaall that much point tapping mods? I mean, if you look at the top mod riders like Benito for example, he just f**king beasts everything half-pedal style, be it pedal-up or bunnyhop, and seems to do super well. I mean, taps are fun, but 'cos of the limits of mods maybe it's not the best idea?Not saying that's 'fact' or anything before anyone says anything, just an idea...i agree - when you think about it you're not going to be able to easily tap anything higher than about 3 - 3 1/2 foot cos the bike isn't big enough to hit it high enough - unless you're clever and can do it mid bunnyhop, which is a ) hard and b ) dangerousyou get the advantage on a stock cos they're bigger and you can hit higher things with them. they're also harder to hop on account of the size (... stupid big wheels ) . all that said- it is bloody good fun bashing into stuff Edited February 23, 2006 by poopipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 You can definitely do it higher than that, 'cos I've done 48" a coupla times and fluked 50" once, but it's not as noticeable in terms of effect as it is on stock when you tap, "imo" and so on. It just seems a bit stupid doing it sorta seriously though, just 'cos stock and mod have different strengths and weaknesses. Mods are great for just throwing around, so why not just throw it up there? Gotta play to it's strengths... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 that's cos you're better than me at riding bikes, theres no need to rub it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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