Street Lee Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 --><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(danny B @ Feb 21 2006, 04:44 PM) ←</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->hhhhhmmmm interesting topic that you lot have got going on indeed yes, trials has indeed evolved in many ways and has had sooo many different phases and fashion trends that it has gone through and me being someone that has now ridin trials for over ten years i can comment on the trends that it has taken, some have been good and productive and others just being a complete and utter load of bollo** that have lined the pockets of the select few...... I think that the street rider seen has been really good for the comp side of the sport due to the fact that a lot of them ended up filtering into the comp seen thus allowing the sport itself to grow in great ways, where as i think the sometimes mix between the styles of trials and bmx is awful, but then again i would say that due to the fact that i am a die hard comp rider and smooth natural riding is the thing that i like in trials and for me the best rider is the person that wins the comp not the person that does the biggest move but then can't get through the same route as what my little brother would ride (And that wasn't a dig) good topic btw danny.....See I'm completely opposite. I did motorcycle trials for 11 years, competitons weekend after weekend, not being big headed but I took it as far as I could, without spending big money which I saw was pointless.After 10 years of serious trials, I got bored and spent a year doing more trick riding, usual trials riding but more stopping, which isn't allowed in trials so it was pointless unless I was willing to give up competing and look for something new.Trying to mix trick riding with normal riding was difficult as hell, but after a year it just felt like I could do no more with it and decided to pack in and quit. Now put me on a motorbike and I'm the worlds biggest show off and I love the look of bike trials, but its only street riding that ever appealed because its different to my usual natural terrain, and the combination of BMX/trick riding made me want to try it...so I packed in and started in bike trials, never looked back.I admit, its each to their own, natural or street. But I think its just what your more used to seeing or what appeals to someone more due to their idols or simply because of their location.Obviously being a natural fan, you would admire the control of a rider, where as street is in the trend of 'how high/far can you....' which is pathetic in my opinion, although its fun to ride.I have rode natural before, being a terrible/novice rider, I hated it, I didnt have the control or balance, but for an experienced street rider would probably like it a lot more. I don't exactly know what the hell im talking about, I think I've repeated myself a few times. but what the hell...copy and paste the bits that make sense, lol. I think we need to ride one weekend, seems like we have similar views and tastes in riding, could be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 Trials is almost the same as any sport really, as it requires balance, power and accuracy.you can be a pro and lead the latest cool moves. (cls, ashton, danny way)or whore the market to make millions (zhee, zoo..nike)Or just have a bike and do a bit of hopping on it, just the same as you can be one of the millions of people who play with a football, because its fun.the only difference between trials and most other sports, is its mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavic Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 I agree with you ollie man , seriously trails i think is the most personally rewarding form of riding of bikes, the effort that goes into riding the sport is massive and it become part of your life going out every week end doing somthing silly or just nailing that tap you wanted for like years. I mean everyday i think about riding, getting the bus or train to college thinking, gap from that to that to that, i think every trials rider does.dont really know were i was going with that but hey .Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 It's safe to say I disagree with most of what you've written there haha awesome. comp rider : look at me I won ... street trials : look at this massive sidehop.... street rider Look at this trick i can do... all show offs, all good. (one far cooler hehe)to the comp boys - dont underestimate how hard the real streety stuff is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny B Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) haha awesome. comp rider : look at me I won ... street trials : look at this massive sidehop.... street rider Look at this trick i can do... all show offs, all good. (one far cooler hehe)to the comp boys - dont underestimate how hard the real streety stuff is. do you think that i never ride street? i know what the differences between the two are and natural is hard than street because not everything is a square edge simple as and the shape that the riders has to make to do the obstacle has to be more accurate,period. Oh and boon it doesnt matter what i say you'll disagree anyway i could say the sky is blue and you would say it was pink! Why always the street versus natural arguement i didn't want to start one! each to there own i was telling my opinion not having a go, grow up! Edited February 23, 2006 by danny B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boon racoon Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 -->QUOTE(danny B @ Feb 23 2006, 02:13 PM) ←Oh and boon it doesnt matter what i say you'll disagree anyway i could say the sky is blue and you would say it was pink! The sky is pink. at night....shepherds delight No fair play if that's your opinion. Just i disagree. 'sall i'm sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsguru Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 it seems to me the more trials progresses the more it suffers, a few years ago you would just ride yer bike and ride it on anything, not oh you cant ride that short bike on natural itll be crap or whatever we just rode. bring back zebdi's,pashleys and giants, obviously with +20mm bb rise lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anzo Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 "because not everything is a square edge". Thats what really wants to make me be able to ride natural. No rock is the same and every single bit of it is a challenge.All trials is not associated with street, whether you like it or not. It was draws most new riders in because they see Joe Bloggs sidehop some wall and not die, its in the public domain. Whereas the natural side of riding never gets seen by anyone, new riders, such as myself only ever see the street stuff...so to me when someone says trials I think 'Street', and no doubt when someone such as yourself Danny, hears trials you'll think of rocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Porter Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 -->QUOTE(danny B @ Feb 23 2006, 02:13 PM) ←do you think that i never ride street? i know what the differences between the two are and natural is hard than street because not everything is a square edge simple as and the shape that the riders has to make to do the obstacle has to be more accurate,period. Oh and boon it doesnt matter what i say you'll disagree anyway i could say the sky is blue and you would say it was pink! Why always the street versus natural arguement i didn't want to start one! each to there own i was telling my opinion not having a go, grow up!they are 2 completely different styles of riding really... you cant say natty is harder than street and visa verca cause it isnt to some people... there are different types of street anyways... your right in saying that natty is harder than some types of street, ie backwheeling a simple wall or alike. BUT propper manual nuts flowy street is just as hard as natural... riding with akkers other week confirmed this, he was doing lines that i wouldnt even have a go at...and was packing them full of style. this is forking hard and only a selected few can do the same sort of stuff akkers was doing... but then it is the same for natty, there are only a few that can do the same sort of stuff slinger/waynio etc can do. so in my opinion everyone is wrong...yet right... its your opinion on things, but i personally dont think one is harder than the other. maybe i should grow up and wear lycra. POW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted February 23, 2006 Report Share Posted February 23, 2006 (edited) you cant say natty is harder than street and visa verca cause it isnt to some people... Yeah good speakings brother! I find natural easier than street, cos i do so much natural. I was once told that if you do more natural you become a better rider but i don't see it. Sure it helps if you want to stick to the original meaning of trials, but ..bllahh cant finish the sentance. As danny said, lets not start a street/natural argumentI find you only really appreciate how hard trials is when you sit back and really think about it. When im just on the back wheel on a wall, I don't think much of it, whereas as people who don't know anything about it, consider it close to impossible..... I don't particularly like people watching me, unless im in a demo where I don't try anything new in case I mess it up In honesty, I think im past the point of "wow" (P.O.W. for short ) When the elite riders bring out a new vid, im not as impressed as when I first started..... Edited February 23, 2006 by PaRtZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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