hagga Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 First of all I'd like to say Hi to everyone (yes..i'm a newbie).I'm just starting out in trials at the age of 31 .After getting my first bike(diamond back T10...big mistake..oh yes) i thought i was well passed it...luckily after receiving a hand me down ally jump bike from my dad (he's 60 something...and mad ) found that the DB T10 wasnt much help to my limited ability.After swiping the better bits of the the T10 (maggy's,hussefelt crank and maxxis's) and adding better bars,shifter,wheels and pedals found my new bike to be well sorted...Ive kept the front sus (not fantastic...insync gring 327's)but find it better than a rigid setup(no...i'm not nosediving onto everything..lol) ....does anyone else use them or am i just odd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-monty Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 (edited) First of all I'd like to say Hi to everyone (yes..i'm a newbie).I'm just starting out in trials at the age of 31 .After getting my first bike(diamond back T10...big mistake..oh yes) i thought i was well passed it...luckily after receiving a hand me down ally jump bike from my dad (he's 60 something...and mad ) found that the DB T10 wasnt much help to my limited ability.After swiping the better bits of the the T10 (maggy's,hussefelt crank and maxxis's) and adding better bars,shifter,wheels and pedals found my new bike to be well sorted...Ive kept the front sus (not fantastic...insync gring 327's)but find it better than a rigid setup(no...i'm not nosediving onto everything..lol) ....does anyone else use them or am i just odd When i went to canada the was 2 guy's with front sus one had a payto bike wich i think is like the canadian version of lesson and one had a norco moment they both had very hard shock's and it was almost rigid but still felt wierd , i think they add allot of wight as well i don't think i would be worth using them. Edited February 11, 2006 by Mr-monty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ft will boy Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 hey i think they'd be pritty heavy get your self a ridgid set and join the gang.oh and welcome to trials forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 they weigh loads but ryan leech still manages.welcome to the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff... Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 I would advize you to get a nice set of strong forks from eithere of theses sightswww.tartybikes.co.ukwww.selectbikes.comwww.mjcycles.comhope this has helped.Kyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 i ran judies after my curtis forks snapped, and it was mighty fun, they didnt hold me back, infact they opened up a whole new level of riding trouble is i went back to rigid cos my mate needed the judies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagga Posted February 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I'll have to swipe the rigids off the T10 and give them a go..then get some decent ones as these look ...errmm..yeah..lol.I just found that with the T10 i could barely get up onto 2ft stuff....and yeah...on the new bike the front end is heavier but after 10mins of having it i could get 2ft plus with ease...even with the triple chain ring on the front..maybe the geo of the new one is better suited to me..saying that...i haven't heard any good reports on the T10(when i was a kid,DB bmx's ranked along side GT,Haro etc...what happened?).cheers lads,i'll give them a go,I'll sort a pic of the bike too..you can tell us what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagga Posted February 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 bearing in mind I'm on a budget..lol...http://imagecloset.com/8/02220611-jays%20bike.JPGUnknown alu jump frame,insync grind 327 forks,club roost 28" DH bars,deore front V(will be maggy when hose & bleed kit arrive)rear maggy,drilled mavic D521 rims,hussefelt 22t,vp pedals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Not as bad i thought it was going to be.And as you progress with trials you'll realise bleeding as magura in a bath (or bucket) of water does pretty much the same thing Welcome to the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 trials rigids will be too short, your bb will be far too low, you will need some longer rigids available from the likes of dmr, on one, planet x and chargerun the seat a tad lower and you have a sturdy little starter bike, thats the kinda set up most of us ran when we started, itll get you by til you have the basics covered, then think about changing the frame and rear hub to something slightly more trials orientated, also maybe try running a grind with some nice pad slike koxx bloxx browns, a good rear brake will inspie confidence in your riding and will help you improve alot have fun chap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagga Posted February 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 And as you progress with trials you'll realise bleeding as magura in a bath (or bucket) of water does pretty much the same thing is what you're saying is to use water rather than the oil?..or am i missing the point?..loltrials rigids will be too short, your bb will be far too low, the bb is lower than on my trails frame but i'm finding that i can clear thing more easily..you're probably right though..I'll pop over the park in the morn..source a benchmark(or mark a few benches more like )..and the swap my forks over to the rigids and have another go.run the seat a tad lower its just that high due to rebuilding it with trails bits a few hours ago.then think about changing the frame and rear hub to something slightly more trials orientated, also maybe try running a grind with some nice pad slike koxx bloxx browns, a good rear brake will inspie confidence in your riding and will help you improve alot got diatech disc ready hubs (don't know if these are any good...but will put them to the test..lol)tried trails type frame(not the best choice though)...any recommendations?http://imagecloset.com/8/02410711-t10.JPGrear brakes superb...only a hs11...but i'm quite fussy on my setting up...got some boosters on order too.have fun chap will do mate cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Yeah if you bleed your magura with water it'll give a much more snappier response ie It'll return quicker and push the pads out quicker. It also feels stronger and doesn't seem to compress as much as the oil, but we had a discussion about that a few weeks ago and it got confusing As for the forks, a friend of mine used to ride a DB thibbault frame with a pari of rockshox I think It did weigh the front end down a little, but it was more of a street bike than a natural competition bike. It worked quite well and balanced out manuals pretty nicely too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark145 Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 My friend has a dvd of Ryan Leech and he can do everything even with the suspension forks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I would advize you to get a nice set of strong forks from eithere of theses sightswww.tartybikes.co.ukwww.selectbikes.comwww.mjcycles.comhope this has helped.Kyle........ Clarky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PV_Joker Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 First off, hello to everyone, I'm brand spanking new to Trials Forum too. trials rigids will be too short, your bb will be far too low, you will need some longer rigids available from the likes of dmr, on one, planet x and chargeMy mate used to ride an old Kona dirt jump frame with really heavy sus forks and he was a superb rider. He used a pair of rigids for a while, until he snapped them, and said he didn't like how low the BB was. I ride rigid and always have though!James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!aNT! Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 i ride a kona wid dirt jam comps at the moment lol i can backhop and stuff, but put me near a wall where i have to get up im crap...then i had a go on a zoo pitbull, front end was up and i was on the wall, infact i went over the wall first time, rigids are so much better!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarrick Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 if you bleed with water i dont think its best with just regular tap water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 I know people say blah blah craig scott lee or TRA, Danny Butler e.t.c. can do it with full sus.But thing is really it is the rider more than the bike because they are all legends.But the fact is it is a lot easier to progress and lift up the front end on a bike with ligher forks, and most rigids are going to be a lot lighter but full sus will stop you canning your wrists DAMN you lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street Lee Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 You might want to run a little lower pressure in the front tyre if you go ridgid, I run less 20psi and below and it give's you all the comfort you'll need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagga Posted February 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I know people say blah blah craig scott lee or TRA, Danny Butler e.t.c. can do it with full sus.But thing is really it is the rider more than the bike because they are all legends.But the fact is it is a lot easier to progress and lift up the front end on a bike with ligher forks, and most rigids are going to be a lot lighter but full sus will stop you canning your wrists DAMN you lolIt does stop me canning my wrists..lmao.....but seriously now...i'm a little confused I've spent today messing around with a combi of my DB trails frame,unknown jump frame,rigid and sussy forks....and the jump and sus forks setup is coming out tops.....why is the set up that feels so right.....so wrong?(eg....non trials)....should I try harder with a specific trials set up or just go for what feels/works best?...or can anyone suggest a frame/forks that will put an end to this..lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street Lee Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 Just go with what feels right mate. When you get to a point where the setup is holding you back then think about swapping, you just need a constant setup for a start so you dont spend all your time trying to get used to new parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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