KEV ROSS Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Hi people.I was browsing the net for a new frame, and i came across the Czar Ivan. I really really like the look of it and was wondering if anyone could tell me what they're like to ride.Thanks guys for any help you give Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 welcome to the forum Kevis the czar the one that looks like a xtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deonn h Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 welcome to the forum Kevis the czar the one that looks like a xtp?Yeh it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Manning Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 there's already been a post about this, but anyway.my mate got the koxx xtp today and as ive got czar, we compared them, and at first glance they appear the same, but the design and geometry are 100% completely different.the czar has higher bb and is 5 mm longer (unless u get the short czar)the koxx has a lower bb and the top tube is higher.my tensiles are 170mm and they cover my maggie, on the my mates xtp he's got tensiles in 175 mm and hes got atleast 1.5" clearance between his crank and his maggies.there are a few other differences, but they are the main ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisholm Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 hey kev you said you would make a post!!yer i am pritty sure it rides nice as reviews say it is nice. unsure if it will be as nice as the kenny can anyone help us out as in to say will the czar ride nicer that a kenny, koxx.cheerschiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 I rode Nick Mannings and personly i though his set-up was soemthing to talk about. Ie: bad.Viz forks which give it even more BB rise taking it to 65mm, he also uses a stm Viz stem and a 5mm spacer.It did feel stiff. I can't stress how stiff as i'll be band for life off the net full stop but try riding an I-beam as a frame and thats an Czar in term of being stiff.It went on the back wheel no effort at all and i wasn't my best that day, was ill with flu, hungover night befor and was hungry and had rode all day in the frezing cold. Yet it was effortless to get up. Deng has defo done right word for word on his site about it and i will prasie the man for once. I was going to get one but i want a 24'' i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Boy Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Hi people.I was browsing the net for a new frame, and i came across the Czar Ivan. I really really like the look of it and was wondering if anyone could tell me what they're like to ride.Thanks guys for any help you give How tall are you and what bike are you currently riding? It would help mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Hey Kev i think the czar is the one that looks like an XTP.But i've heard the giometry is completely different.from stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEV ROSS Posted February 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 How tall are you and what bike are you currently riding? It would help mate I am roughly 5ft 7" and i ride a Kenny Belaey Pro Model at the moment, it feels awsome to ride but its had a hard life and is about to snap. I would have another kenny beleay frame any day but im not paying £495 for a frame again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Get the LONG version of the Czar mate, i got a hifi stem er gatheirng dust you can buy if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEV ROSS Posted February 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Get the LONG version of the Czar mate, i got a hifi stem er gatheirng dust you can buy if you want.Sorry mate just bought a new Try-All Stock Stem as my old Try-All stem snapped clean off at the weld the day when I was out on my bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisholm Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 are you going to get a czar kev?the kenny is a very nice bike but as you say i think it is on its last legs or maybe last wheels!!cheerschis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEV ROSS Posted February 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 are you going to get a czar kev?the kenny is a very nice bike but as you say i think it is on its last legs or maybe last wheels!!cheerschis very keen on the czar but will have to try before i buy. yes mr chisolm the kenny is a very nice bike. But as i have said before the kenny is just to dear to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 This aint Kev the trials deva isit now? May of meet you 2 odd weeks ago in Bristol on sunday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEV ROSS Posted February 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 This aint Kev the trials deva isit now? May of meet you 2 odd weeks ago in Bristol on sunday?no it was not me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 You lot are right about the kenny being aceHow much does the CZAR cost?from stu! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEV ROSS Posted February 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 You lot are right about the kenny being aceHow much does the CZAR cost?from stu! The CZAR is £305 from tarty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wright Pads Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 (edited) £270 off Dan Ko and £299 off Selectbikesi also said about them stem mate if you were to buy the Czar as you need a high rise stem to correct the higer bb so the bars are set to the right spacing ie distance form the center of the framePete Edited February 13, 2006 by Wright Pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 kev you got msn set up yet need to get some o that footage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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