Thurston Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Hey everyone as it says in the title which is best to buy for trials.Cheers Thurston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipkickbs Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 No point in anybody else answering really, avid bb7. Its been said in enough threads to make a sweater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted January 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 No point in anybody else answering really, avid bb7. Its been said in enough threads to make a sweater.Cheers Mate help appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Yep, definitely the BB7. Levers-wise, I'd go for either the Avid SD7 lever, or their disc-designed lever that's made for the BB7 brake. I've got an XTR on mine, and although they've got "The look", they're not really any better than any other lever out there, really. The speed dial on the SD7 and the disc lever are really, really useful.For cables, you can't go wrong with an Odyssey Linear Slic, £6.99 from most BMX shops (www.pijin.co.uk do free postage ).That should be a pretty bomb-proof setup. I've got the 203mm rotor setup on mine, and it's pretty 'core. Not had any problems with it, apart from the left-side adjuster cap fell off, so unless I put a bit of tape on to hold the little adjuster lever in place, it loosens itself gradually. Other than that, top banana. Standard rotors are pretty fly too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zordon Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Yep, definitely the BB7. Levers-wise, I'd go for either the Avid SD7 lever, or their disc-designed lever that's made for the BB7 brake. I've got an XTR on mine, and although they've got "The look", they're not really any better than any other lever out there, really. The speed dial on the SD7 and the disc lever are really, really useful.But I would choose Xtr lever because it has more in my opinion more comfy lever blade. I'm used to magura levers and Xtr lever blade feels similar to Magura. Avid blades are more sharp and therefore not so comfy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Personally, I hadn't really noticed the difference between the two. I think I've got the more jaggedy Magura lever anyway, but the main thing for me is price. I bought my setup second hand so I didn't foot the initial bill, but an SD7's a load cheaper, and you'd get used to the difference in lever. I've used both, and I can't really remember there being a hugely different feel; certainly not one you couldn't grow used to EDIT: If you go for the XTR lever, make sure you don't get the NEW ones which have the integrated shifter. Flappy flappy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted January 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Thanks for all your help guys.Cheers Thurston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 hmmm i disagree, dont bother with mechanical discs, get something with fluid in by hope, hayes, avid or shimano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurston Posted January 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 hmmm i disagree, dont bother with mechanical discs, get something with fluid in by hope, hayes, avid or shimano.I dont have a lot of money so im looking for a good mechanical disk for around £70 which bein a BB7 because it shall last for a fair good while and i have no worries or bursting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie456_the2nd Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 BB7 - i was on my mates bike that has this brake, it makes my maggie feel non-existant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swize Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 (edited) hmmm i disagree, dont bother with mechanical discs, get something with fluid in by hope, hayes, avid or shimano.I disagree every bike I have riden with a hope the brakes been wank even the hope trials. Theres nothing good i can see with hydraulic brakes?:.They cost more.I would say they brake more offern.You have to buy oil .You have to buy bleedkits Where as the avid cable disc is awsome! I think everyone that has ridden my bike will agree on just how powerful it is! Sam Edited January 20, 2006 by samthebiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 hmmm yeh ofcourse, thats why all top end bikes from every discipline come with cable discs?!??!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Tom Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 I disagree every bike I have riden with a hope the brakes been wank even the hope trials. Mine isn't wank i only have the mono mini, it might not be as good as yours but it's bloody sharp Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Joker, shut up until you've ridden a bike with an Avid BB7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Tom Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 Joker, shut up until you've ridden a bike with an Avid BB7 I have ridden one and they are bloody sharp, but my hope is the best hope front brake i have ever been on and most people think that too.Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 I have ridden one and they are bloody sharp, but my hope is the best hope front brake i have ever been on and most people think that too.Tom.That's nice. But I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Joker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swize Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 (edited) Mine isn't wank i only have the mono mini, it might not be as good as yours but it's bloody sharp Tom.Ok I agree your brake is quite sharp. But still thnk mines sharper and holds better!But hasunt your lever messed up so u can't really set the reach of the brake?Personly, as you know, I like my brakes to pull along way and the avid gives the freedom of adjustment for me to have them just as I like them.Can you adjust a hope like this?I stick with what I said before though.Sam Edited January 21, 2006 by samthebiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 ^^thats why cable is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 BB7's are perfect so long as they are set up properly. I have tried up to front up's with my weight really far back and my brake has still held (obviously I didn't stay airbourne for long)I can't see the point really in another £40 for a hydraulic system, when the cable one works just as well? I mean, a hydraulic system, all it takes is one thing to go wrong (by you or naturally) and the whole system needs looking at .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 hmm I have tried the avid and to its credit its not a bad brake, but I hate the way everyone licks its arse without actually trying anything else, my point is that no matter what your personnal opinion is, if they were as good as you all say, then why do all companys from every discipline use hydraulic brakes?? when steve peat or liam killean start using avid mechanicals, then i will give them a chance.also, cesar uses hope trials, chris doney uses/used hayes etc............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swize Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 (edited) when steve peat or liam killean start using avid mechanicals, then i will give them a chance.Why would they bother its not a downhill brake in fact it would be the worse one ever but thats not the point is it we are using it for trials not downhill.The fact is it is one of the best brakes out there for trials. Edited January 22, 2006 by samthebiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 for trials the bb7 is fine, but for anything where it has to brake hard and gets a chance to heat up, they are turd, thats why hydros come on top end bikesbb7s are very good, but avid juicys piss over them, you dont have to suddenly buy a bleed kit and all that shite either....why the fook do people insist on rebleeding every 5 minutes weirdos, for bleeding its pretty simple, just need some oil and a few basic tools to undo the bleed bolts...well thats what ive survived on for all my disc brakes and ive had loads bb7=cheap, dependable brake to a point-they seem to have a short lifespan with a fair few wanting to dismantle themselves juicy=amazing top end hydro disc brake that so far doesnt seem to want to give up! from my experience they are the only 2 brakes worth considering on your trials bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Ive tried the hope mono trials And own an avid bb7....And can honestly say, The bb7 wanks in the hopes face, My mates hope broke after a few months, And the brass barrel broke. And just generally seems to lack any form of lock and hold.Whereas my bb7, Lcoks hold and modulates, Been running fine since august, In all conditions, And all ive had to buy was a new set of pads. Still running the same cable, Lever and brake, and its still as sweet as the day it was bought.Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 my hayes is nice, holds and modulates really nicely. could do with a little more bite, but i guess the only way would be a 203mm rotor. all the avids i have tried have been awesome, some hopes have been rediculousley good, others, wank. i really want to try a juicy. i'v heard so muh good stuff about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 (edited) hmmm yeh ofcourse, thats why all top end bikes from every discipline come with cable discs?!??!?!?lol have to agree with thatmagura marta no contestpisses over the hope mono trial tryed 4 bikes with them, and again over onzaboy marks 203 avid but thats the only front avid i tryed Edited January 23, 2006 by dave33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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