DaiTrials Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) Yo John, if your online and not riding Just wondering what your running, gonna be gettin a 24" soon, Just saw TM2 - awsome riding and lush ride!Main query is what forks are you running, what bar and stem ( bar length / cut down ?? ) and what tyres you are using, thankyouDaiTrialz Edited January 14, 2006 by DaiTrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Porter Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 hes using pashleys with the mounts on that backlike 3" rise azonic single or double walls, cant remember whichand a stem that i cant remember the make of, isnt to common though i dont think...and i think its around 100mm...maybe 90 haha. if thats any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Here's a pic:Different paint job since TM2, I guess it's been back for repair or something. Looks nice now I reckon, I was gonna get a green one.Anyway: Forks look like modified pashleys, tyres are both tiogas. Front looks like a Comp III, back one is probably a Factory DH. I wouldn't recommend them though, no matter who uses them As for bar and stem I'll let someone else answer because I can't see from the pics. But the stem looks like an Easton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 few more , better pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich4130 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Ye, pashley forks, extended steerer tube I think? cos he has loads of spacers on there. 2.5" rise azonics, singlewalls cos doubles are well shiny? .And shit tyres, comp 3's are ok, do the job, but I pinched a rear 'DH' one about 5 times in a day, running it about 40psi and I weight about 5 gramms. get a maxxis anyday, think there about the same price...The Comp 3's from CRC are so much narrower than the other Comp 3's from where ever John gets his from, even though there both meant to be 2.1" try and get a fatter one, cos the one I got from CRC is really really narrow and rubbish for taps etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaiTrials Posted January 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Nice one guys, anyone got any ideas what sort of width bars u should be running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich4130 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Whatever you like mate, some cut them down, some leave them as they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Do the brakes on the other side of the forks make for better braking or worse.And can you get them on a 26". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrewsbury Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 LEESON FRAME, 1030 LENGTHFORKS PASHELYS WITH MOUNTS ON BACK, v brake works so much better without grind.BARS DH 2.5 rise azonic single wall.I've always run tioga DH tyres on the rear ( Shit grip in wet, but gd in the dry)COMP 3 TIOGA TYRE, for the front in 2.1STEM just a normal rise stem, short and sweet. If your wanting a gd stem, look at the new HOPESTEMS, just get a gd rise one.CLIVE LEESON mostly helps me out with the frame and forks.shewers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nick Riviera Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 just make it more efficient , and yeah pace made reverse mount 26" forks , not sure if they still do , if not clive will make some for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 shewers While you're here, how do you find that back brake on the back of the frame thing? Must be a bitch to set up?As for cutting down bars, I run some cut-down Eastons on my Ashton and they're ok. I'm not really down with the whole wide bar thing, I never found them to help. At the moment mine are pretty narrow (25" ish) and I can do everything the same. The only real advantage that I've noticed is with X-ups, but that's not exactly important. It might help for manuals too, but I am crap at them anyway so I couldn't tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaiTrials Posted January 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) just make it more efficient , and yeah pace made reverse mount 26" forks , not sure if they still do , if not clive will make some for you For all you mathamatitions if you imagine the wheel going forward and the brakes mounted normally, then the force on the brakes is pulling them off the forks. by mounting the brakes on the back of the forks then the force acting on the brakes forces them into the fork, and so the brakes are stronger. This is why a rear brake is better mounted ontop on the stays rather than underneath (same reason)Did I just answer a question in my own topic? lolPS - john, what width are those bars man, i know its up to prefrence but theres gotta be a nice length to suit 24" style and you must of been tinkering for a while Edited January 14, 2006 by DaiTrials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrewsbury Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) I got clive to put the mounts on the frame like that, as i've seen bmx frame's hav the same thing and wanted to try sumthing diffrent, it does work, but not as well as i fort it wud.I think the lenght of my bars are 27. (great lenght), so i find it really easy to x'up and there a DH bar in 2.5 rise. I use 28 length bars on my 26inch bike, so not much difference( just lower rise)Just feel's like a bmx really. Edited January 14, 2006 by John Shrewsbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeee Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 I got clive to put the mounts on the frame like that, as i've seen bmx frame's hav the same thing and wanted to try sumthing diffrent, it does work, but not as well as i fort it wud.Bmx frames have the brakes there to deal with chain clearance issues. Which most get round now but welding the stays lower. Can't see any benefits for trials.What reasons made you think it would work better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrewsbury Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) All i had done was mounts put on, Hasn't afecked the frame in anyway, just wanted to try it out, to see if the brake wud work. One thing which was gd about it was, that it was easyer to set up that way.Maybe hav the brake down the bottom for my 26inch next time. Edited January 14, 2006 by John Shrewsbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Bmx frames have the brakes there to deal with chain clearance issues. Which most get round now but welding the stays lower. Can't see any benefits for trials.What reasons made you think it would work better?Chainstays are generally a bit fatter and presumably stiffer than seat stays. I guess that's one potentially good thing. On the other hand it would be hard to set up and you run a greater risk of getting oil all over the pads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeee Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 All i had done was mounts put on, Hasn't afecked the frame in anyway, just wanted to try it out, to see if the brake wud work. One thing which was gd about it was, that it was easyer to set up that way.Maybe hav the brake down the bottom for my 26inch next time.But why? i mean if theres no real benefit whats the point. I always find bmx's with under seatstay brakes a pain in the arse to set up. "Don't fix what isn't broken" - Some wise bloke. Chainstays are generally a bit fatter and presumably stiffer than seat stays. I guess that's one potentially good thing. On the other hand it would be hard to set up and you run a greater risk of getting oil all over the pads...Didn't Leeson have a proto like this though and decided it wasn't viable. Your right on the Oil score also i'm sure the crossover would get in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 "Don't fix what isn't broken" - Some wise bloke. Mr Margaret Thatcher Didn't Leeson have a proto like this though and decided it wasn't viable. Your right on the Oil score also i'm sure the crossover would get in the way.I think so, yeah. And on that funky one-tubed Giant trials frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Shrewsbury Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) Because i wanted to try it, and see wat it wud be like. Like i said before, wats the harm in trying sumthing. Edited January 14, 2006 by John Shrewsbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Jones Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) Damn dogs, im so getting a Leeson soon.. the only real bespoke bike company.Might even run the suspension again on it - its amazing on 24"s apparently!J. Edited January 14, 2006 by trialmedia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave85 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Damn dogs, im so getting a Leeson soon.. the only real bespoke bike company.Might even run the suspension again on it - its amazing on 24"s apparently!J.apart from seven, peyto, desalvo, triton.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoyoyo Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 just make it more efficient , and yeah pace made reverse mount 26" forks , not sure if they still do , if not clive will make some for you Cool, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 John, what's the geometry of your bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 whats your gearing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoojames Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Just wondering, isn't the whole point in having a bespoke bike to be able to choose your OWN geo? By looking at the post John might as well start building up aload of the same spec'd bikes and selling them fully built for a small profit! The whole idea is that John is experimenting with his own taste, not someone elses to get the perfect ride for himself. By copying his geo you may get a bike that rides amazingly, for John, but for you it could be utter balls because your not John! Just go on a bunch of different peoples bikes, think about what you've ridden before, change some bits about on your current bike and see what difference it makes.Just my opinion but a viable one I think?May get slaughtered but meh, don't really care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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