skye_trials Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 (edited) Hi,i am thinking of upgrading my onza t-bird, it is an 04 model, where do you all think i should start?At the moment i have only put hs-33s on but now need some advice as where to go now.Thanks in advance Allen Edited December 30, 2005 by skye_trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 some better cranks, tensiles maybe, get yourself an eno too. a better bar and stem would be good too. somthing like onza carbon risers and a t-master stem feels real nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoo Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 How much do you have to spend?You could buy a frame that you like,also any pictures of your bike? then i can help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houseface Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 id probably upgrade the frame if you dont have much money , go for something like an'05 zoo!onza t-pro or a zona.steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skye_trials Posted December 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 (edited) id probably upgrade the frame if you dont have much money , go for something like an'05 zoo!onza t-pro or a zona.steve.Hi steve,I have got about £250 to spend at the moment but am hopefully getting a part-time job soon.i was thinking about the new yaabaa frame, so if anybody has any information on that, like quality and how it rides would be very much appreciated.How much is the 05 zoo, it is mod that i would like to stick with.Thanks Allen Edited December 30, 2005 by skye_trials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skye_trials Posted December 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Hi,I have just looked a the zoo python the 06 model, i think it is well nice but it seems so cheep (285 including p+p) form what i have heard the build quality is meant to be amazing.so also some comments on that please.Thanks again Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Definitely change the frame. The T-Bird is really a pretty awful bike IMO. Well, it's not bad for the money, but it makes everything three times harder than it ought to be. So unless you can sell the bike, change the frame. Why not save some money by shopping second hand?The Python is alright I think, but the Zona Zip is £179 (?) and it's basically the same frame. Well, in terms of how much it costs to make it's the same frame, slightly different geometry and stuff but it's your average long, low, silver bike. Some people prefer the Zip, some people prefer the Python. I don't think there's much in it. If I was on a budget I know which one I would go for. Bear in mind though that most frames take a 19" back wheel, and the older T-Birds have a 20" back wheel, so you would need to change that too. I *think* the '04 'Bird has a 19" wheel (so you're ok) but I would check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skye_trials Posted December 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Definitely change the frame. The T-Bird is really a pretty awful bike IMO. Well, it's not bad for the money, but it makes everything three times harder than it ought to be. So unless you can sell the bike, change the frame. Why not save some money by shopping second hand?The Python is alright I think, but the Zona Zip is £179 (?) and it's basically the same frame. Well, in terms of how much it costs to make it's the same frame, slightly different geometry and stuff but it's your average long, low, silver bike. Some people prefer the Zip, some people prefer the Python. I don't think there's much in it. If I was on a budget I know which one I would go for. Bear in mind though that most frames take a 19" back wheel, and the older T-Birds have a 20" back wheel, so you would need to change that too. I *think* the '04 'Bird has a 19" wheel (so you're ok) but I would check Hi,the 04 t-bird is a 19" rear wheel.cheers for that info, i am now looking at the zona zip!Do you know where i can find some info on it, the price ectThanks Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skye_trials Posted December 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 How much do you have to spend?You could buy a frame that you like,also any pictures of your bike? then i can help Hi, will try and get a few pics for you in the next day to two days mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Hi,the 04 t-bird is a 19" rear wheel.cheers for that info, i am now looking at the zona zip!Do you know where i can find some info on it, the price ectThanks Allen OK, I've got the price wrong - It's £199 now, BUT that includes a free headset, bottom bracket and 4 bolt mounts. Plenty of info there too Frames @ Tartybikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTTY___ Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 OK, I've got the price wrong - It's £199 now, BUT that includes a free headset, bottom bracket and 4 bolt mounts. Plenty of info there too Dont forget if he wonts a bash plate, he will need and extra £15.Also if i was you... Ide wait afew extra week, Save up and get the GU Frame... There so god dam sexy!!£285 Including P+P! Its on the same Page as the Zona Zip Scotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe b Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 In my opinion, you need to upgrade the parts much more than you do the frame. I'd say some decent brake pads if you have already, Onza carbon bars and a T-Master stem, maybe an eno freewheel with some decent cranks, like tensiles... Cheers,Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skye_trials Posted December 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Hi,Would i be better upgrading the onza with my £250 or saving for longer and get a new frame and if so which frame?Either way which parts should i buy for the onza and makes and how much do they cost? or which parts should i buy when and if i got a new frame, makes and how much do they cost would be very helpful? Thanks for the help so far and thanks in advance for this question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoo Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 You could sell your t-bird frame then buy a GU typhoon frame,or you could get a rear profile wheel build.zoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skye_trials Posted December 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 You could sell your t-bird frame then buy a GU typhoon frame,or you could get a rear profile wheel build.zooHow much do you think i would get for the t-bird frame and bottom bracket and bashgaurd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 How much do you think i would get for the t-bird frame and bottom bracket and bashgaurd?maybe £20........Theres a second hand t-pro frame in the for sale section for £40You could buy that then upgrade some other parts on your bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skye_trials Posted December 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 maybe £20........Theres a second hand t-pro frame in the for sale section for £40You could buy that then upgrade some other parts on your bikeThanks for that mate, but i don't like any onza any more.I really like the look of the gu typhoon and the zoo python.Thanks Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoo Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 maybe £20........Theres a second hand t-pro frame in the for sale section for £40You could buy that then upgrade some other parts on your bikeI totally agree with that,not sure about the £20 though i don't know much about t-birds so maybe,if you buy that t-pro,they are good frames so then you still have like £210 to play with,and you could buy a echo wheelset (the ones with silver dips in them) for like £130 from tartybikes and still have £80 to buy something else.maybe an Eno Hope this helps matezoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalopS Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 was thinking about the new yaabaa frameThanks for that mate, but i don't like any onza any more.I really like the look of the gu typhoon and the zoo python.Thanks AllenThe yaabaa frame is bascially a t-pro anyways I think a cheap frame like a Onza T-pro with good components will ride better than a GU or ZOO with your old T-bird components but its up to you what you want first reallyYou said your getting a part time job so if that pays well and you havent got anything else to spend your money on youll be able to afford it all in time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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