bobby_biggun Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 hi,Iv just bought a irc el-gato and i cant get it off my rim iv tried every thing, and iv snapped 2 screw drivers..The rim is a mavic d521I need it off cos iv got a puncture,Iv also tried heating the rim with a blow tourch, but still didnt work.I havn't been ridin very long is there something i dont no.Help me pleaseThank luv bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Use proper tyre levers, or put some washing up liquid around it and ease it off.joefish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank_rider Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 you should never need any tools to get a mtb tyre off!!the secret is moving the bead of the tyre over into the middle (lower) section of the rim. Go around the rim doing this and pulling all the slack this creates to a single point, then you should be able to simply pop the tyre bead over the edge of the rim. It might take a couple of trys, and you might need to move the inner tube out of the deepest section of the rim by fiddling with it a little while in order to get the bead down into there, but its perfectly possible. I know that its made a lot more difficult this time of year when your hands are freezing etc, so if you can take the wheel into your house and let your hands and the wheel warm up a little first before giving it another go.Try not to use any substances to aid removal as youll then have to spend quite some time cleaning the rim thoroughly to prevent contamination of your brake pads!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VariotiboXS Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 it isnt always that simple, some tyres are made to sit really deep in the rim walls so you can run them at lower pressures, if you got a tyre lever set its pretty simple, push the bead into the middle of the rim, pull the whole tyre over to one side on the circumfrence of the wheel, put a tyre lever in, lever it uphook onto a spoke, same again next to it, then put a third in (all sort of close to each other) then take the middle on out n put it somewhere at the end, repeat and eventually the tyre will just pretty much remove itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby_biggun Posted December 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 thanks lads,If this still doesnt work, do you think i should try and grind my rim out to get the tyre out, and then bend the rim back?Thanks Bobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 no, bad idea, keep rim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John planet x Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Lol some people are just too gullable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 thanks lads,If this still doesnt work, do you think i should try and grind my rim out to get the tyre out, and then bend the rim back?Thanks Bobbyyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhups Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 "thanks lads,If this still doesnt work, do you think i should try and grind my rim out to get the tyre out, and then bend the rim back?Thanks Bobby"Very bad ideaIf it does not come off just take it to the bike shop.Bhups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basher Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 use proper tyre levers (metal ones) just pull a little bit of the tyre out a bit at a time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.E.A.U Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 if you dont want the tire anymore do what i did and saw through it. alot faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koxx1 Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 just give it a yank don't be a girl about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey gav Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 take it to a car garage thell take it off using one of there machines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squince Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 The machine would also destroy your wheel, there made for taking car and truck and motorbikes tyres of I should know, my dads been the the motor trade for 40 years cheers andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swize Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Just get a tyre lever and rub some fairy liquid on it then a bit on the tyre/rim and it should come off easy mine did. Why not try leaving the wheele next to a raditor for a while then trying ? Maby the rubber will expand a little and loosen up of the rim. I mean if you have just got it out of the shed then its going to be all cold and tight??Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 interesting topic, and some even more interesting solutions.i had the same problem with my mission. A lot of tires go quite far down into the rim, i just took the wheel into my bike shop, and got it back 2 days later with a new innertube. sometimes it pays to be lazy! anyhow have you got it off yet mate?MIKE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials_joe Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Boil the kettle and then pour it onto tyre. The heat will expand it a little and will make the tyre softer. Should come straight off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modified Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 (edited) Is this a joke? it's not hard to take a tire off, get your old man on the job if you really can't do it. Just get some tire levers and it will be alot easyer.Modified Edited December 29, 2005 by Modified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Is this a joke? it's not hard to take a tire off, get your old man on the job if you really can't do it. Just get some tire levers and it will be alot easyer.Modified yeah maybe on a BMX or a mountain bike, and some Trials bikes, but a lot of the tire's walls sit deep down into the rim wall, and as they have all sorts of metals and fibres in the walls of the tires to make them tougher it doesn't stretch as easy.on most normal bikes the tire relies on the pressure in the innertube to ensure it is held tightly onto the rim, but on trials bikes the air pressure is a lot lower and so the tire wall has to do more work, this is why they are fitted into the rim tighter. Mike!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!aNT! Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 I had the very same problem, dont heat your rim, dont do anything to do with lubricants, and never use metal tyre levers that have sharp edges...leave your wheel on your bike, get someone to hold the back of you bike(makes it more stable in the bike see!) and depending on how bad your puncture is if you can pump quickly enough then pump it to a massive pressure and that will push the bead up (doesnt actually work on creepy crawlers i found out!) then shove a tyre lever in and quickly pull the bead out with as much effort as possible, amd ise a second lever to hook to another spoke, and a third to yank the rest out around the rim...if you only have two levers then use the second after hookng a spoke with the first and move it about 8cm round the rim and do the same as the first tyre lever and your finger should be alright after. hope it helps! !aNT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_PRO Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 I tell you what is hard to get off, and thats the rear tire of a mod bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el curevo Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 yeah maybe on a BMX or a mountain bike, and some Trials bikes, but a lot of the tire's walls sit deep down into the rim wall, and as they have all sorts of metals and fibres in the walls of the tires to make them tougher it doesn't stretch as easy.on most normal bikes the tire relies on the pressure in the innertube to ensure it is held tightly onto the rim, but on trials bikes the air pressure is a lot lower and so the tire wall has to do more work, this is why they are fitted into the rim tighter. Mike!!!Sorry dont mean to be rude but what are you on about? Its got nothing to do with the actuall bike if hes just taking the tyre off then its just the tyre and the rim. I have a mavic 721 (exactly the same as a 521) on my DH bike and the sidewalls are exactly the same weather its on a Dh bike or a trials bike. Anyway yeah, best way to get the tyre off if its well and truly stuck is boil the kettle and pore hot water onto it so it sofens the beed up, just as 'Trials_joe' said. Then get hold of the tyre move it side to side and you may hear a little 'pop' or something thats just where the tyre may have stuck to the rim a little as it has set its self. Then a good set of tyre levers (i use trax levers) and your tyre should come straight off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 (edited) ffs its an irc el; gato they have the slackest sidewalls ever, they are kevlar.you must be god damn stooopid if you cant get an el gato off a 521.......speaking of hard tyres id love to see someone get a monty rear tyre onto a d521 without damaging it.also who ever said ' dont use car tyre machines' is talking crap i have used one to attempt to get a monty tyre onto a d521 and it didnt damage the rim at all. so Edited December 30, 2005 by Bucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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