TomN Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 What do you lot think about this hub? HUBO I think it's great having two pawls together going at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott-mad Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 WOW looks realy nice. good idea to looks expensive though how much is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted December 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 £80 I think, I looked at it in BMXRide magazine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 (edited) The new HURE cassette hub comes with the “EAS” (Equal Axle System). The weight is 414g (14mm CrMo). KHE Cassette uses 6 Claws, and also features our own developed 3/3 clutch system where the power force of three claws is alternated. So the system allows more power than any other hub. The most important thing is that theirs a bearing where the main force and presure is working on: under the claws. Most BMX cassette hubs (from other brands) use bearings at the sprocket but none at the claws. Our KHE driver is featured with two smaller sealed bearings under the sprocket and one bigger bearing under the claws + two sealed bearings inside the alloy hub body. The "Hure" is available with 3/8” or 14mm axle, 36 or 48H. Coloured Coffee pearl. The front hub also comes with the “EAS” system & four sealed bearings used for Street or Dirt riding. What's the matter with this EAS system?We have been working and testing our new axle system “Equal Axle System” (EAS). for quite some time now It is a rather simple & hollow oversized axle in which it utilises specially designed ends. The biggest problem generally faced in this area is that after a bolt brakes, the thread inside the axle can cause a problem. This is why we designed and developed our own system. Our KHE designed adapters come with a larger flanges placed behind the dropout so that in any case of the axle breaking, then our adapters can be easily replaced. KHE offers its adapters in alloy, titanium & CrMo. This way for example you can use an alloy adaptor on the left, and a CrMo or Titanium one on the right side. It just depends on which side you grind. Dirt Jumpers can use alloy on both sides if they don't use pegs. This way every rider can customise the hubs to fit his or her needs. this explaines it much better ^^^^^^^is it just me or does it look like you could put more pawls in if you wanted to??? Edited December 22, 2005 by mat hudson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 (edited) looks really promising, problem is... only does in 36 hole of 48 Id have that over a profile how many EP does it have? i dont think it says?looks like you can add some pawls, but id rather ride it the way its designed than faf about with it and fook it Edited December 22, 2005 by terror-error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat hudson Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 (edited) just to let you know, the design of that hub means it has some places for the pawl to pivot completley empty. so that would mean you could aquire some more pawls and slap them in. that is, aslong as the silly circular spring is long enough. this would mean that it would have uber solid engagement if the spring still worked well. Edited December 22, 2005 by mat hudson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 just to let you know, the design of that hub means it has some places for the pawl to pivot completley empty. so that would mean you could aquire some more pawls and slap them in. that is, aslong as the silly circular spring is long enough. this would mean that it would have uber solid engagement if the spring still worked well.Awsome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulltrialser Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 same spring desing as the echo hub was but this looks a right beast one for my bmx as i already have a profile on my trials.Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 Seems good. Only thing I'm not so keen on is that damn spring... The difference in pressure between the single spring clip (like that hub, the Odyssey hub, etc.) and the standard springs you get in, say, the Eno freewheel, is pretty substantial. It's just not so great...Ah well Looks good otherwise though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Seems good. Only thing I'm not so keen on is that damn spring... The difference in pressure between the single spring clip (like that hub, the Odyssey hub, etc.) and the standard springs you get in, say, the Eno freewheel, is pretty substantial. It's just not so great...Ah well Looks good otherwise though.I wouldnt be too bothered about the springs, my freewheels springs are shit lol, i dont trust it, but i dont care about it at the same time lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onza Kieron Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 That looks a good idea but i still think my idea of runing two ratchet rings in different postitions with two sets of three pawls per a ring would work best, if you don't understand what i'm on about i will upload pics later.Kieron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Seems good. Only thing I'm not so keen on is that damn spring... The difference in pressure between the single spring clip (like that hub, the Odyssey hub, etc.) and the standard springs you get in, say, the Eno freewheel, is pretty substantial. It's just not so great...Ah well Looks good otherwise though.Although I dont fully understand, doesn't the spring size (which I can't see anywhere and don't know what you mean) only depends on if you want to put more pawls in the hub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 What I meant was that the spring systems are totally different.With the KHE hub, the spring is one big spring that fits in the channel between the pawls. On any freewheel (to my knowledge ), you hvae individual springs for each pawl. This means more springing power, which reduces the chances of skipping 'cos the pawls are firmly pushed back into place for when you pedal. So yeah, weaker springs = not so good. Equally, if you put the extra pawls in like someone suggested, you're gonna have too much mass for the spring to move comfortably, so it'll be shit...Plus I'm not so keen on the axle idea. All the weight's being transfered into the little microaxle bit and then into the mouth of the hub body. Seems a bit odd/pointless, but then again, odd/pointless design features are KHE's trademark (think: internal gyro, etc.)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted December 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Cool so the New Echo hubs are like the KHE.......... For the price of this KHE it's not bad for £80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Cool so the New Echo hubs are like the KHE.......... For the price of this KHE it's not bad for £80. People said that about the Echo hub. Notice how Damon's shit the bed. See what I mean? Just 'cos the price says "Yes", it doesn't mean it's a sound product... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burton Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Stick to what you know.Profile worksCk works, most of the timeHope can work.New hope, well, if it comes out, then this is the mod you want.The Echo hub cant see them lasting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 Stick to what you know.Ck works, most of the time f**k paying £426 for a hub though, eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted December 24, 2005 Report Share Posted December 24, 2005 f**k paying £426 for a hub though, eh ditto, and if you want it to last ALOT longer, you have to splash out on alot more money buying better axels n shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatmike Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 ditto, and if you want it to last ALOT longer, you have to splash out on alot more money buying better axels n shit!No you don't... HD axles are standard on BMX and Singlespeed hubs, and they come with a king kog, so there's no worries with the driveshell.And Mark, we all know noone pays £426 for the hub. Try half that! Mike.(Damn you, wake up family!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted December 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 People said that about the Echo hub. Notice how Damon's shit the bed. See what I mean? Just 'cos the price says "Yes", it doesn't mean it's a sound product...True but wasn't the quality of the materials let the hub down? Anyway it's BMX so it should hold up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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