deanie-b Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) Theres been lots of FAQ'S Recently, SO i thought i'd do a bleed one, since people are always asking in the main members forum (Y) 1) Remove magura hs33\11\66 From bike and Find a spare bucket\ bath to Bleed your brake in 2) Fill bath\bucket up. COMPLETELY submerge brake in water, and undo Grub Screw On the lever 3) Then, Undo The bleed bolt off the cylinder, and let it drop to the bottom of the water, It tends to be a very greasy bolt. 4) Start to pump (pull and release) your lever, Air bubbles should start shooting out, Keep the pumping up untill the bubbles start to stop, When they have completely Stopped coming out, you should have a succesful bleed with no air in the system :-:) NOTE!! Be careful with the magura oil that will start to come out of the brake when you bleed it (If it's the first time you've used water), It has a habit of sticking to the side of the bath, And doesn't look too nice, SO your Mummy's will not be happy with you! :D Sorry Lee, for nicking pictures out of one of your old faq's Edited December 3, 2005 by deanie-b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miket-raptorman Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) thanks man a very clear and simple guide there, but i think il leave mine as oil until it stops working then i might risk tampering. oh and by the way what does it actually do when you bleed with water Edited December 3, 2005 by miket-raptorman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Thanks for such a zippy reply (Y) lol Pros of a water bleed are : Smoother Lever feel (Lush!) Cylinders return quicker Cons: MAY damage the seals Can freeze in winter Any other questions, feel free to add me on belld006@msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhill_rob2@hotmail.com Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 MAY damage the seals No it wont. What plastics have you heard that water has deisolved? (cause thats all that maggys mainly are...) or even rubber... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 No it wont. What plastics have you heard that water has deisolved? (cause thats all that maggys mainly are...) or even rubber... I assume you don't know much about a water bleed? When you bleed the brake with water rather than mineral oil, The water is more acidic, This means that the seals (rubber) May\may not slowly corrode with time Cheers :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad dan Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 To stop the water freezzing in the winter mix it with anti freeze. :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siders77 Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 You could ask me if you want to steal my images, you know. Better guide here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siders77 Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 I assume you don't know much about a water bleed? When you bleed the brake with water rather than mineral oil, The water is more acidic, This means that the seals (rubber) May\may not slowly corrode with time Cheers :S So everytime you drink a glass of water it burns the shit out of your insides? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) So everytime you drink a glass of water it burns the shit out of your insides? :S Our insides aren't made out of rubber ???? On another note, please check your email, I hate not been able to send Pm's Edited December 3, 2005 by deanie-b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siders77 Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 I know they're not, but it doesn't matter. Water is not acidic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Pitbull Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 http://www.trials-forum.co.uk/forum/index....c=65888&hl=Biff This will help with setting them up :S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) I know they're not, but it doesn't matter. Water is not acidic. Shit, acidic is the wrong word, Corrosive might be better?? Water is corrosive to the seals, Mineral water isn't. I'm not worried about setting up my brakes Mr pitbull, But thanks anyway :S Edited December 3, 2005 by deanie-b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Cox Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Shit, acidic is the wrong word, Corrosive might be better?? Water is corrosive to the seals, Mineral water isn't. I'm not worried about setting up my brakes Mr pitbull, But thanks anyway :S so what your saying there is i can bleed my brake with tap water, but with mineral water? which do you reccomend? volvic? evian? :) Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 so what your saying there is i can bleed my brake with tap water, but with mineral water? which do you reccomend? volvic? evian? :S Ben Ok, ben , you got me good there :) MINERAL OIL PEOPLEZ!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squince Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Right, first of all its the iron in the water that very and i mean slowly f**ks your seals up, you can buy de-ironised water or if you freeze water it takes the iron out of it, so your choice :S cheers andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Thanks Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleee Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) Right, first of all its the iron in the water that very and i mean slowly f**ks your seals up, you can buy de-ironised water or if you freeze water it takes the iron out of it, so your choice :S cheers andy Is it not de-IONISED water that you buy? The stuff the used in chemistry labs in school, which is used in car batteries? Edited December 3, 2005 by jake1516 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) I thought it was alkaline used in car batteries, just like normal ones?? On another note, i Believe using distilled water works the same as well? Edited December 3, 2005 by deanie-b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-BAD Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) by the time the seals 'go' you will probably of bought a new brake anyway so it don't matter. one of my mates mates used milk :) to bleed his brake, it was ok till it went stale :S Edited December 3, 2005 by T-BAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 by the time the seals 'go' you will probably of bought a new brake anyway so it don't matter. one of my mates mates used milk :) to bleed his brake, it was ok till it went stale :S Hey!, Thats an idea :-.....How long did it go for till it went stale mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshywa Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Shit, acidic is the wrong word, Corrosive might be better?? Water is corrosive to the seals, Mineral water isn't. I'm not worried about setting up my brakes Mr pitbull, But thanks anyway :S sureley its not the water that corrodes the seals and more the high amounts of chlorine an florine (added to water the kill bacteria) that will corrode the seals any way water is acidic what do you think "HARD WATER" is ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-BAD Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Hey!, Thats an idea :).....How long did it go for till it went stale mate? check the sell by date on your milk and it would roughly be that lenght of time. i'm geussing about 4 days :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanie-b Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Thanks joshywa...Sod 4 days!!!, It's not even worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad dan Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 I bleed my brakes today with water for the first time, it worked ok until I got to step 4, I pumped the lever for ages but couldn’t get the brakes to bleed. Thinking about it! I realised that water was pumping in and out of the master cylinder without filling the brake lines and slave cylinders. I found the best way to fill the system without any air bubbles was to hold the master cylinder (handle bar lever) above the bucket of water (slave cylinders submerged with no bleed screw) and to pull the lever and hold it in, next seal the bleed hole with a finger (obviously with the bleed screw removed) and then quickly release the lever, this sucks up water through the slave cylinder with my finger acting as a non return valve. This routine was repeated until I could see plenty of water coming out of the master cylinder, when this occurred I quickly put the master cylinder under water, gave it a few more pumps and then installed the bleed screws.By the way I mixed the water with 25% of antifreeze so that the cylinders wouldn't corrode, I used an antifreeze that didn't contain methanol or ethylene glycol as these are very poisonous.CheersMad Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padarik Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Right, first of all its the iron in the water that very and i mean slowly f**ks your seals up, you can buy de-ironised water or if you freeze water it takes the iron out of it, so your choice cheers andydoes it matter? how long will it take to f**k the seals up using water????? probly longer then youl have your brakes anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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