planetary1 Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Our new 20" frame called the 20.1 is now available directly through the web site or from one of our regional dealers. There are specs and pics on www.toxsin-bikes.com in the components section. The frame is available with or without bash guard and in blue sparkle or silver sparkle. Thanks to everyone who has been patient about the release of this frame. Please get in touch here or via the web site if you have questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 :) f**king minging did the guy who does onza decals design those ones? whats with the bash, can we have a closer pic? apart form the uglyness, it does appear to have some nice design features-like the dropouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Smith Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 i dont know what it is about that but i really dont like the look of that frame one bit.................. it may grow on me though, i thought the standard of the stock frames was a lot better ash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Cox Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 search for toxsin 20 in new members chat paul, i put the pics up a while back, inc a close up of the bash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 (edited) Edited November 28, 2005 by TomN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsking 55 Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 958mm wheelbase +45mm BB :) bet it'll feel like your going to go over the bars if your over 5' lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 that looks horrible, and with such a short wheel base is it really nessessery to have a high bb? other than that its lush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave85 Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Its not high though, its the same as a monty x-lite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 how is that bash design any better than the current standard bash setup? to me it looks heftier and its centralising all the force onto the bb shell? also looks like you'd get stuck on some objects due to the gaps the tensioners make sense though :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b'mouth trials Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Hmmm, not too sure about that one lol. Looks bloody skank IMO. Tensioners are cool thought and as for the bash.........interesting. I guess if it rides good it doesnt matter as much, guess we will have to see.. Aaron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxrider Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 (edited) :) Inventive I suppose. Any chance of pictures of a built up one? Actully looking now I like the blue one :lol: Edited November 29, 2005 by manxrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Looks like an oldish skool Onza T-Mag but CNC'd in places - definatly not worth all the hype :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thechink Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 i think thats nice. it different. i like. also do you relise its names after a halford special apollo bmx, the MX20.1 simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducko Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 i think its really nice! i hate the graphics thou there horrible, i think we should see how they ride being honest, cant say much form a few piccys, bash is a cool idea(imagine the grip on the logs :) ) tensioners are cool! looks promising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai the Socket Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 We have 15 years of bike manufacturing experience and we think it shows in our attention to quality and detail. Hmm. That's weird. I only heard about you in the last like year :) Looks okay but the bash and rear tensioning are shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 i think its really nice! i hate the graphics thou there horrible, i think we should see how they ride being honest, cant say much form a few piccys, bash is a cool idea(imagine the grip on the logs :lol: ) tensioners are cool! looks promising i thought u wer a uci la' ? :) :P looks good, i would definitely ride one, but i would have the non-bash version. also the rear dropouts are a bit limited for hub choice i must say. only the new echo and profile hubs can fit!?!?! meh looks good to me :D Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz M Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 958mm wheelbase +45mm BB :D bet it'll feel like your going to go over the bars if your over 5' lol 06 monty has shorter 945 wheelbase and +50 bb, doesnt feel like your going to go over the bars one bit :) so i doubt this will, maybe if yo use a super low bar and stem :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Surely those wheelbases are 998mm and 995mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIX Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Why is this thread still open when the Triton thread was closed within 3 post???? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducko Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Why is this thread still open when the Triton thread was closed within 3 post???? :) because this one is a vast scientific debate about the structure of the new frame. joking dont know mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SQuiT-man Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 In a way I love it, in a way i think its sorta weird. Interesting though. Ill definately consider it for my next frame. Anyone know the chainstay length? 45mm BB is actually lower than the other mod frames out there, isnt it?? Id definately like to see some good riders' reviews on how it rides, and maybe some videos, it might grow a lot on me. Also, how much does it weigh in at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 That, to me, just looks sketchy. how is that bash design any better than the current standard bash setup? to me it looks heftier and its centralising all the force onto the bb shell? also looks like you'd get stuck on some objects due to the gaps Word about the first part. Unless there's something hidden, there's no elastomer or real shock absorption on the base of the bashguard, where you're going to hit it hardest? I hope I'm wrong, otherwise it's a really stupid idea. Equally, what's that going to be like for lateral impacts on either side? In that you won't always hit stuff that's coming at you perpendicularly or whatever, I don't see two not so thick bits of metal supported only at their bases (maybe an i-beam would be better?) standing up to that much abuse? Also, as someone else said - on natural stuff, it's not all flat stuff wider than the bash, so on rocks and so on wouldn't it just be a bit of a bitch? I know a stock's bashring would be similar in width (ish) to one of those plates, but having two and that relatively large assembly just looks like it'd be awkward. Looks like an oldish skool Onza T-Mag but CNC'd in places - definatly not worth all the hype :) I'm with Raub. After the trillion posts of "oh my god, I've seen pics of this I luv it" and "Don't show them yet", it's a bit disappointing. The tensioners are interesting, but the rest of the frame doesn't really jump out as being anything particularly special. Geometry certainly doesn't flick my switch either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 I think the bashguard looks ok, maby a bit unessisary, but it looks easier to take off etc. I had bother getting my bashplate on and off. And of corse you can buy it without the bashplate so it shouldn't be too much of an issue. The wheel base is way way too short for this day and age. Don't like the tesioners either, don't like things intergrated into the frame. Just a thing to go wrong. Can't see anything wrong with buying them seperatly. :) Not a frame i'd ever buy, but i'm just saying all of this without ever actually riding one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 i thought u wer a uci la' ? :) :D haha craig :P lol I really like the bashplate design, its unique and very inventive. So long as it works, I think its incredibly snazzy Frame does look a bit...odd :lol: and graphics are poop. But I guess if it sidehops higher than CLS ill get one (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 Is it me, or does the front triangle look amazing huge in that pic? In an over-sized tubing sorta way? Just noticed it on that pic :) Just wondering, could someone find out the centre BB->centre top headtube measurement? Just curious to see how short it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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