Alex O'Neill Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 * My T-Bird is completely stock except for the pedals, Incas. <_< * Hey dudes, i was just wondering what upgrades you'd recomend for the furture? Around £100 ATM. Or should i save up 'till March, My birthday, (along time still but hey) and get a Echo Team frame. Or I was thinking of these mabey - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houseface Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 see if you can get any ood deals second hand, if not go for the frame first, then the cranks. steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmowerman Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 I would get a set of creepy crawler tyres, some brake pads and a bar/stem. Those cranks wont fit on your bike because you have a rear freewheel. They're front freewheel cranks <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 I've got a T-bird abd i've just ordered me a carbon fibre brake booster, how long have you had it cos some new tyres would probably be good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc Lovin Posted November 19, 2005 Report Share Posted November 19, 2005 I would up grade your forks to Echo easy, thats what i did on my T-pro the forks you have got weigh a Ton, you have got a few choices really, Theres not allot of point up grading cranks on a T-bird really, You could get new bars and stem, A new Onza wheel build from Tarty for £115 or just get some small parts like grips, pads etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch A Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 When i had a t-bird i upgraded the freewheel to a acs 16t freewheel :) This helps backwheeling and gapping since the harder gearing B) I also got a pair of creepy crawlers. They are so better than the sticky fingers that come with the t-bird :rolleyes: Cheers Mitch <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Smith! Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 (edited) Keep saving, new pads, a new frame then cranks and bar and stem, forks <_< Your rear hub may also break if it's standard, depends how high you are going. Mat Edited November 20, 2005 by mattyboy_69_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex O'Neill Posted November 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Theres not allot of point up grading cranks on a T-bird really Why not, they suck. Those cranks wont fit on your bike because you have a rear freewheel. They're front freewheel cranks It says on tartybikes that you can put a normal front chain ring on it. some brake pads and a bar/stem. Brake pads naa ive got tar <_< And why a new bar/stem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamHolmes Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 New bar and stem will make it ride better <_< (Maybe ZOO! combo) Also new tyres wil knock about half the weight off :) (Get Creepy Crawlers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-BAD Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 I would get a set of creepy crawler tyres, some brake pads and a bar/stem. Those cranks wont fit on your bike because you have a rear freewheel. They're front freewheel cranks <_< they would fit but you'd have to buy a CnCed echo sproket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex O'Neill Posted November 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Do you have to by a special freewheel to use on the front or can you use a normal rear freewheel? And 17 Front - 13 Rear be much different to my 22-17? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 (edited) theres not much point in switching cranks til you break those ones if you ask me. you won't notice any difference unless they're a different length. i'd go for some brake boosters - they make your brakes work better (and probably extend the life of your frame too). i like the cheap 4 bolt echo ones, theyre about 20quids from tarty. forks is a good suggestion, you'll save a pound or 2 in weight on the front which will definitely help. oo - get some skull shaped valve caps, chrome ones if possible EDIT :: Alex. .. for FFW use a standard freewheel on the cranks, you need to clean it out properly and threadlock the lockring on to stop it coming undone. most mod riders run 18-12 gearing. I used to run 22-17 but switching to 18-12 made everything much nicer, its a fair bit faster but only takes 5 minutes to get used to. Edited November 20, 2005 by poopipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-BAD Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 oo - get some skull shaped valve caps, chrome ones if possible i had some of those dustcaps the paint just peeled off them cheap S#!T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex O'Neill Posted November 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 (edited) So ive decided to get either Stem (Echo £37) and a Booster (Echo £21), Stem and Creppy Crawler rear tyre (£22), Or Booster and tyre? NB Whatever I dont buy now I will be able to get in a Month on less. Edited November 20, 2005 by Alex O'Neill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 If you just want to run a front freewheel weld your old hub shut and then an acs freewheel will not only just you more engagments it will also save you from having to buy a new rear wheel, now thats value for money £12 bargin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc Lovin Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 So ive decided to get either Stem (Echo £37) and a Booster (Echo £21), Stem and Creppy Crawler rear tyre (£22), Or Booster and tyre? NB Whatever I dont buy now I will be able to get in a Month on less. I think break booster and forks would be best to be honest. There's no point Buying new tires until they wear out, its just wasting £40. As someone said a break booster would improve your breaking and expand the life of your frame. If your getting a new stem you might as well get new bars as well ( improve your balance if you get longer bars, yours are only 27" i think), You could get the T-master stem and zoo! bars or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex O'Neill Posted November 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 I dont understand why new forks would help. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpson Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Because stock 1s are wank and weigh a ton and are making you have to work the bike a lot harder to have to pull it up something and will halve the weight apparently and will make it look less stock'y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 I dont understand why new forks would help. :) Different forks would be alot lighter. As the T-Bird ones are Steel, Strong, But heavy. Most Mod forks now are very strong and light. Because they're aluminium. Try some Echo forks of similar. New bar+stem will make the bike feel alot nicer too. Try Echo Team stem with Zoo! Riser bars. Alot lighter then the Steel T-Bird bar+stem, and the bars are wider and flexy, so they give you more spring and more control. As said before, get some Creepy Crawlers, Mainly a rear one, as they have alot more grip then the standard Onza tyres, and weigh a bit less. New pads will be alot better too. Tar will never beat Plaz CRM's. Just get some for the rear, and you'll love it. Your wheels will be fine for now. Good strong rims you have there. Probably the best around. Get a rear 12t sprocket, and the Echo Cranks with maybe an ACS or (if you have enough) an ENO. If you get the ACS, make sure you tighten the lockring. Perhaps weld it. When the time comes, Upgrade the frame. T-pro's are lovely to go to from having a T-Bird. I did it, and loved it. Or maybe a Zona Zip (what I'm getting now) From reviews i've read, they ride like the T-pro, but better, and easier. Longer, but don't 'feel' longer because of the high BB. Eeerm...That's about it really. Just do all that when you can, and you should end up with a pretty decent ride. B) <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex O'Neill Posted November 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Thanks Dan. I've taken my forks off and striped then and realised how much the weigh 1.3 kilograms and the Echo ones ive been looking at are on 762 Grams or something close. As for frames (next year) i'd proberly get a Echo Team or mabey a Zip. I'd have to ride them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 If your getting a new stem you might as well get new bars as well ierm, i think im right on sayingthis... the standard t-pro stem has a very silly 28.6mm clamp whereas the echo has a very sensible (31.8 mm ?) clamp. i imagine you've got the same stem/bar combo on the t-bird so you'll have to get new bars if you get a new stem. oh, and if you're set on a new stem, the onza t-master is half the price of the echo and the same shape - apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 I think you should save and get a new frame <_< This is because the parts you have are ok, but ive got a t-bird frame and i think its terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc Lovin Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Thanks Dan. I've taken my forks off and striped then and realised how much the weigh 1.3 kilograms and the Echo ones ive been looking at are on 762 Grams or something close. As for frames (next year) i'd proberly get a Echo Team or mabey a Zip. I'd have to ride them. What Echo forks are you looking at? I had a problem when i got my Echo Easy forks because when I set up my bike and put on my breaks they were pushed fully against my rim, ( Onza Hog ) My TPA was fully unwound, the breaks set up as far back as they would go but the pads were pressed up so hard against the rim it was hard to force let alone roll, so i cut some rubber off my pads, put them back on and it worked fine. We came to the conclusion that my rim was really wide and the forks were designed for the echo rim. About a week later my magura broke so i am now running a disk. The magura breaking had nothing to do with the new forks the threads went in the lever by the way. Just thought I would let you know :angry: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkey gav Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 What Echo forks are you looking at? I had a problem when i got my Echo Easy forks because when I set up my bike and put on my breaks they were pushed fully against my rim, ( Onza Hog ) My TPA was fully unwound, the breaks set up as far back as they would go but the pads were pressed up so hard against the rim it was hard to force let alone roll, so i cut some rubber off my pads, put them back on and it worked fine. We came to the conclusion that my rim was really wide and the forks were designed for the echo rim. About a week later my magura broke so i am now running a disk. The magura breaking had nothing to do with the new forks the threads went in the lever by the way. Just thought I would let you know :P . to be honest hog rims are stupidly wide better with a ronnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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