Michael Hardman Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 Has anyone heard that theres some guy that had AIDS and now its gone. Theres the possibilty of a cure for a desease that kills millions every year. It kills becasue the f**kers called multinational companies wwant money for condoms and shit like that and people are twats when it comes to protection. Anyway that aside it could the start of new problems or even goes against my strange view that AIDS is like any other desease and that is gods plan is to control the population through the survival of the fitest. Anyway number two, that aside discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 (edited) Without aids, we would be way too crowded. :P Edited November 13, 2005 by Hobnobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 What. The. f**k. Did you just write? Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducko Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 if they can cure it it would be cool! but people would maybe become less cautious and maybe catch other diseases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 he didnt have AIDS he had HIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 (edited) A big problem regarding AIDS is the Catholic church who condemn the use of condoms because apparantly they promote sex as a means of "enjoyment" and not strictly as a means of reproducing which I find quite absurd. Especially being as it means millions are dying or have died in Africa as a direct result. The other problem is the drug companies who produce the drugs that dramatically slow the process of the development from HIV to AIDS. This, simply, is because profits matter more than lives. They aren't willing to either release their patents so that other sources can produce cheap generic versions of their drugs and they aren't willing to reduce the cost to a degree which means poor nations can afford their drugs. Can you feel the love? All I can feel is greed and ignorance. I really hope that they have found a fix. I just wonder how it will be put to use. Edited November 13, 2005 by rowly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_ferret Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 the aids virus can still penertrate condoms :P oggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 Did you just make that up? Surely the fact that aids resides in bodily fluids means there is no way it can get through a condom as fluids are too large to pass through any gaps in a condom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_ferret Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 Did you just make that up? Surely the fact that aids resides in bodily fluids means there is no way it can get through a condom as fluids are too large to pass through any gaps in a condom? im sure when i watched a programme the aids virus is actually smaller than any other std/sti therefore can pass through? going to search now lol oggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 That sounds like myth to me m8. I'd be interested of proof otherwise though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Clark Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 It kills becasue the f**kers called multinational companies wwant money for condoms and shit like that Wait, are you trying to say the only reason AID's still exists and no-one has cured it is so condom companies can get higher profits? News Story Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazzyhaslam Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 If putting off a cure was solely for the profit of comdom manufactures then why do I get them for free from my family planning clinic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank_rider Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 the human body mutated to produce this in the first place, so its only natural for the human body to come up with a natural cure at some point. It's like the tribe in Africa who all have HIV, yet none of them ever get AIDS, their body somehow suppresses it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 The government pays for them i thought. Either way, yes condom people want cash, but then so does everyone. Even if condoms were free, its still far too widespread for it to controlled for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 im sure when i watched a programme the aids virus is actually smaller than any other std/sti therefore can pass through? That was a common misconception that was spread by the Catholic church in Africa. They basically said that HIV gets through condoms and that condoms were therefore evil. But there is no evidence for that at all, and all they have done is propagate the spread of HIV throughout Africa. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 If putting off a cure was solely for the profit of comdom manufactures then why do I get them for free from my family planning clinic? i got dared to sign up there too now i have loads of condoms which will never be used :P Anyway its not that difficult to put a condom on so theres no real excuse for it Oh and if AIDS is carried in body fluids why can't people get it through kissing ? (with tongues) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 I think its because the fluid doesnt actually go into your body through the mouth. If you have cuts or anything like that, then you can get HIV through kissing. I think my biology teacher said it would need like 500 litres of saliva to transfer it or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 (edited) ughh someone finally edited their post to point to a news story with the facts. Anyways if i had cured myself of HIV ... i would have £ signs in my eyes, no wonder the guy hasnt returned for further tests he's sitting on a cure for the biggest killer in the world. lots and lots of money is coming his way. Edited November 14, 2005 by Spacemunkee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Who cares about the money. Millions of lives saved potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 The would do so many tests on the poor guy it would be unreal. They would need to know exactly what was going on in every part of his body. The thing I don't understand is why he was tested again for HIV. Surely if they had a positive test that they were sure about then they wouldn't need to do it again. My money would be on one of the tests that they did being wrong (I.e. He never had HIV, or he still does). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeee Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Has anyone heard that theres some guy that had AIDS and now its gone. Theres the possibilty of a cure for a desease that kills millions every year. It kills becasue the f**kers called multinational companies wwant money for condoms and shit like that and people are twats when it comes to protection. Anyway that aside it could the start of new problems or even goes against my strange view that AIDS is like any other desease and that is gods plan is to control the population through the survival of the fitest. Anyway number two, that aside discuss. I wouldn't worry Mike you can't get Aids from your hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardman Posted November 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 I wouldn't worry Mike you can't get Aids from your hand. Very true becasue if I did have a cut thenId have to have AIDs alreadyand seeing as I dont I cant catch it that way canI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisboats Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 The would do so many tests on the poor guy it would be unreal. They would need to know exactly what was going on in every part of his body. The thing I don't understand is why he was tested again for HIV. Surely if they had a positive test that they were sure about then they wouldn't need to do it again. My money would be on one of the tests that they did being wrong (I.e. He never had HIV, or he still does). I agree, i think that it is much more likely that the original diagnosis was incorrect. However time will tell as they will be able to find out easy enough by the antibodies that the guy will have for HIV if he really did manage to heal himself. Would be pretty good if he has though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonPace Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Who cares about the money. Millions of lives saved potential. Yes im sure you would be saying that if you were holding the cure. Millions of lives saved in an already too over populated world. Not being a racist fanny but to be fair in all these poor african places where everyone has aids.. they brought it upon themselves. They all f**k eachother.. they all bring kids in to the world that are inevitably going to die before they have even had a chance to see what the world is like. Its no way for people to live but yet they still keep doing it and they really arent helping themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1a2bcio8 Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 I can tell you with as much confidence as is possible that I wouldn't be interested in the money. My concern and happiness is derived from people. It's my opinion that the situation in Africa in the most part, is not the majority of the populations fault. A lot of problems occur from Western behaviour. We have created a situation that is most likely to be perpetual to a degree just like everywhere else in the world. The rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. Being poor promotes ignorance and lack of concern and this applies everywhere. If you were born into their enviroment without the education you've been lucky enough to aquire, I'd like to see you behave any differently. It can change though, but it takes time, and initially, a change on our part. Basically, the west's behaviour is atrocious. We sell arms to these countries which promotes instability and results in the deaths of innocent people. We subsidise our agriculture, put tarrifs and quotas on their imports so they are unable to trade with us because they will just lose money. We lend their dictators money who are totally corrupt and pocket the loan leaving the debt with the poor of that nation. We support coups for military dictator who we favour because they will give us access to that particular countries resources. So much for the promotion of democracy. We introduced a religion that is now used to tell the people of Africa not to use condoms. I could go on and on and on and on and on. It is the way the west, and Britain is one of the worst in regards to this sort of behaviour, treat these nations that puts them and holds them in situation of extreme poverty without the educational means to make the decisions that you see as the right decisions and would certainly be the right decisions in regards to a healthier nation and world. It's the condition of extreme poverty that we play a large part in that promotes AIDS and population overgrowth which is blatantly dominant in the realm of the extremely poor majority. I can bet that the midle classes and elites in these African countries don't suffer the same percentage of casulties to AIDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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