stevecoust Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 hi ive seen the new czar ivan and the adamant which one is worth going for i had an xtp but it snapped so i liked it but if i go for the c zar i would probably worry about it snapping any ideas .............steve :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Swindlehurst Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 czar would be the best because it like the xtp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 czar has a higher bb than the xtp which would make the ride a bit different to the xtp. It is heavier but stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Dave Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 i think i would probably go for the adament as it looks so strong and everyone must admit it is one mean looking bike. its different aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsMonkey Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 Don't worry about the Czar snapping. Despite it's looks it is NOT an XTP. I think the frame is at least a pound heavier in weight due to the heavier tubes used, I would expect it to last a while longer than your XTP anyway. The Adamant frame does look nice though. I don't think durability should be an issue when choosing between the two. The main difference is looks since the geometries appear to be very close. If you liked the way your XTP looked pop for the Czar if you want a change go Adamant. x Dani x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 CZAR is made outta U6 which is stronger than the tinfoil that the xtp is made out of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR28 Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 CZAR is made outta U6 which is stronger than the tinfoil that the xtp is made out of The XTP is actually U6 as well - just the tubes are thinner, to save weight. Like MrsMonkey (haha) says, theres not a lot between then - have a ride of Phils Czar and see what you think! I assure you the Adamant is also very sweet, looks nicer in real life in my opinion - the matt black finish is very classy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trials Dave Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 CZAR is made outta U6 which is stronger than the tinfoil that the xtp is made out of haha. yeah there tinfoil alright. :- B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Bleech Posted November 4, 2005 Report Share Posted November 4, 2005 The XTP is actually U6 as well - just the tubes are thinner, to save weight. the most expensive tinfoil in the world :- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gardner Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 the czan looks the same as a level boss so a very nice looking bike and the adament looks kool to, its a hard decision to make but i would go for the adament. Cherz, Ross (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex.loves.boys Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 go for the adamant looks very nice. love the black , and if youve had a xtp why not have something different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwaNzz Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 I prefer the look of czar, cause i like the looks of the xtp adamant looks nice but black aint my colour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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