I'm hungry Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) cheers dude, i think you mean bio oil...if thats what your on about ive tried it and it makes little difference and to be honest a little bottle is 15 something quid and only lasts a little, so id rather keep my marks than spend that much and see little to no results.might be talking about something else, so if you are please let me know what it is.about training and nutrition... im natural, im 19 in a few months so untill im 21 not even thinking about it! i drink about 2l of water a day, and take multi vitamins everyday, morning and evening.i think its just my skin, i see much bigger guys in the gym with no marks at all, but some smaller guys with alot of marks on them.i supose everyones different, but after a chest workout i look like ive been attacked by a fcuking panther and clawed my chest lol. proper beastlyps. peperami - i also have them just above and on my hamstrings, partly from hamstring curls, deep squats and deadlifts... mind you they gone skincolour not and cant see them. took a good half a year for them to heal up though, but havent returned thank god! Edited March 18, 2008 by I'm hungry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban mammoth Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 woooo!gone up on almost everything now......chest / bicepsBench (freeweight) - 100Kg 5 reps x 5dumbell incline press (fw) - 30kg on each 3 x 8narrow grip bench (fw) - 70kg 3 x 8dumbell fly (fw) - 20kg 3 x 8EZ bar curl - 45kg 3 x8dumbell curls - 20kg 3 x 8Legssquat (fw) - 100kg 3 x 8dead lift (fw) - 100kg 3 x 8shoulders / trapsmilitary press (behind head) - 55kg 3 x 8upright row - 55kg 3 x 8dumbell lateral raise - 14kg 3 x 8barbell shrug - 100kg 3 x 8dumbell shrug - 50kg 3 x 8back / tricepswide grip pull ups (my weight 90kg) - 3 x 6tricep push down - 42.5 kg 3 x 8dumbell push up / scull crusher things - 38 kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD™ Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 blahbio oil sorted out my face, if you noted my last avatar you'll find that quite a feat!if not, try to find some pure vitamin e cream and use that. vitamin e is what the body uses naturally in the healing process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Right thought i would update my career...2 years ago i took lifting seriously.. well i say seriously i had a program i had the protein meals i just ate a lot to put on size. I then got a gf and lived off chinese food for 8 months and didnt go to the gym in that time once. I was left a flabby mess.. i wasnt fat i was just ... .. no tone at all. Started the gym again in january.. been going 10 weeks now, no program as such but worked everything i needed to. Results? not really existant.. i had got stronger but my body looked epic shit. 3 weeks ago now i decided to go all out... £120 on food shopping consisted of:lean sirloin steakschicken fillets/breasts/legstomatoesspinachlettucepepperscucumberraisons/sultanasoatsmixed seeds (all the good ones)a ton of milk and waterorangesapplespineapple slicescottage cheesegoats cheesefetta cheeseetc... there was pretty much everything i needed. So i start eating away.. yom yom yom i could eat a staggering amount as often as i wanted and never feel bloated... bonus. I was going to the gym and had so much energy to lift it was unreal.. programs didnt tire me as bad as before i was hardly ever out of breath and my stregth went through the roof. Well.. all sounds great? well no.. i now resemble what i would call an african long distance runner... my strength to weight ratio is amazing.. but i look like nothing its so f**kING annoying.Im at a complete loss.. where is the happy medium between hypertrophy and strength? i seem to be all one or nothing. More food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 more food, heavier weights and less reps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bionic Balls Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 ean sirloin steakschicken fillets/breasts/legstomatoesspinachlettucepepperscucumberraisons/sultanasoatsmixed seeds (all the good ones)a ton of milk and waterorangesapplespineapple slicescottage cheesegoats cheesefetta cheesehow long did that lot last? must'v been well boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 (edited) hmm well depends of course on what food but veg n stuff = 5 days pretty much before stuff starts going off... and oats etc.. like 2 weeks.. but yea.. i thought all that food would be uber boring but its not at all. Its actually amazing how good it tastes .. pretty much 5 minute job as well to cook. All the veg is fresh its just a chop and rinse under some water then bosh on the plate, whilst thats being done the steak in on the george forman being grilled .. which cooks them stupidly fast so by time veg is ready that is too. Wack everyone on the plate and sorted.. fetta cheese tastes good with it all. Urgh i want food now.Tell you what though.. eating "healthier" or "cleaner" whatever you want to call it.. makes you realise how bollocks some of the food people put in to themselves really is. Like for that whole list (some stuff missing) you only need like 4 aisles of the supermarket.. out of say 30.. and atleast you know more or less what you are putting in to you (apart from the pesticides ofcourse). Pizzas etc just look so rank to me now full on grease urgh no need Edited March 19, 2008 by Spacemunkee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peperami Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 more food, heavier weights and less reps If you just lower the reps you'll be in powerlifting territory, which is what he wants to avoid (maximum strength for as little mass as possible)If you eat more theres no way you wont put weight on fella, its basic science. You might be finding that because you're eating what appears to be a clean bodybuilders diet, you're not getting enough calories, hence the leaner look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 urban mammoth= tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm hungry Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 urban mammoth what where your squats like at 100kg? form wise? how deep?55kg on upright rows is killer dude, if it was freeweight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 (edited) urban mammoth what where your squats like at 100kg? form wise? how deep?55kg on upright rows is killer dude, if it was freeweightoooo i just got back in to doing squats! mine have gone to shit lol 5x6 on 80kg and i couldnt walk for 2 days. I used to do 110 for 6x4 last year... i f**kin love them.. and its hilarious seeing how badly peoples form are. I dont understand how people cant squat low.. is it just lazyness? ive never understood the whole go to parallel shit.. i go down past parallel and always have.. thats the hardest bit of the whole squat not the last 5 inches on the way up which the fookin noobz at my gym do.oh also.. anyone find front squats the most disgusting exercise ever? Edited March 19, 2008 by Spacemunkee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban mammoth Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 (edited) hahahayer front squats are disgusting!! i think its the whole high elbows thing!ermm squats are fairly deep, not totally sitting on my heels but over 90 degrees. was totally shown up the other day when the guy after me bumped it up to 140kg!! i had to stop myself staring!! hahayeah upright row is free weights man! grrr might get some videos of techniques going on so we can all help each other!?and i'll dig an old pic of me out and compare it with the new me!!haha I had all my weight and stuff done the other day.....height - 6"3Weight - 89kgBody Fat - 9.1%BMI - 23.5pretty happy with that.anyone read about the "300 test" that gerard butler and the rest of the spartans did as a final challenge after all their training for the film...25 wide grip pull ups50 deadlifts with 70 kg barbell50 press ups50 24" box jumps50 floor wipers with 70kg barbell25 kettlebell clean/press 15kg25 wide grip pull upsall straight after each other no rest... shit!apparently one of them did it in sub 18 mins!!here's two videos about it... Youtube Video -> ">" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> Edited March 19, 2008 by Urban mammoth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 hahahayer front squats are disgusting!! i think its the whole high elbows thing!definitely, its so welcoming to go to back squats after you have been doing front squats it makes back squats feel so easy. Talkin of big squats.. i have seen around 200kg.. i dont know exact weight but i know it was 200kg or more done by people in powerbase. Altho.. they are powerlifters so there we go.. but!.. f**k me.. its such an eye opener to go to a good gym to be honest makes you realise how pathetic your average human is incomparison to a steroided monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm hungry Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 dont know who was sayin about deep squats, but be very carefull, i have a mate who goes to my gym and hes an amateur powerlifter, and he told me about a friend who loved deep squats and he got terrible hemoroids from it over time. dont go further than paralell, so ive been told, by alot of pt's aswell. i dont know becaus ei havent experienced but id rather be safe than sorry...it might not affect you now but it will.paralell is as far as you need to go if your doing big weights, it works the muscle to its maximum posibility.and to mammoth, your a f**king animal dude!ps. i love front squats and a big fat bruise on my shoulders a week later! well worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonMack Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 anyone read about the "300 test" that gerard butler and the rest of the spartans did as a final challenge after all their training for the film...25 wide grip pull ups50 deadlifts with 70 kg barbell50 press ups50 24" box jumps50 floor wipers with 70kg barbell25 kettlebell clean/press 15kg25 wide grip pull upsall straight after each other no rest... shit!apparently one of them did it in sub 18 mins!!Interesting stuff, I just read this about it, "At the end of the training, about half of those who trained took the 300 test, Twight says. Andrew Pleavin, who plays Daxos, leader of the Arcadians, was the only actor to take it. He finished in 18 minutes and 11 seconds." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban mammoth Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 haha not sub 18 then, but pretty damn close!floor wipers look like fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 25 wide grip pull ups50 deadlifts with 70 kg barbell50 press ups50 24" box jumpsI had ago and it took me 20 mins to get to there. still i'm actually quite pleased with that. a couple months more training and i'll be able to do it in under 40 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban mammoth Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 not bad going mate!!does anyone else have trouble with wide grip pull ups!!?if i weigh 90kgs its like lat pull down at 90kg int it?!i see these light little basts just leaping up and busting 20 out but they must only weigh 60 kgs wet through!i can just about make 10 but i properly struggle with the last 2-3.meh im improving.... when i started doing them about 3 weeks ago i could only do 3-4!! hahachest /biceps tonight! gonna kill it and try up everything by at least 2.5 kg.lol should be fun trying to play at pocklington rugby 7s tomorrow!! eek! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm hungry Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 i strugle with widegrip pull ups, however i do pulldowns with 95 kg and weigh just under 80kg.also i find my biceps involved much more when im doing pull ups thats why i never do them to be honest. pulldowns work a treati also got chest and biceps to do tonight, well looking forward to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban mammoth Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 do you do your lat pull downs in front or behind your head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 do you do your lat pull downs in front or behind your head?both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm hungry Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 yeh do both, however i only do around 60kg behind... kills my shoulders with anything above that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) haha the lat pull machine at my gym is ace. i've got to the stage now where i've got to get someone to help me take it down be cause when i pull on it i get lifted off the ground I do both usually 1 front then 1 back then 1 front and so on.do 90 kilos and weigh just under 70 so yeah i'm one of those annoying people that make pull ups look fairly easy but actually it's because I weigh sac all and all my strength is in my arms and shoulderscan anyne do one handed pull ups? I've been trying them recently just for abit of fun it's so hard to stop yourself from spinning around most i've managed is 2 and on the third one I hit my head off the bar Edited March 20, 2008 by G4vyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkee Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 haha the lat pull machine at my gym is ace. i've got to the stage now where i've got to get someone to help me take it down be cause when i pull on it i get lifted off the ground I do both usually 1 front then 1 back then 1 front and so on.do 90 kilos and weigh just under 70 so yeah i'm one of those annoying people that make pull ups look fairly easy but actually it's because I weigh sac all and all my strength is in my arms and shoulderscan anyne do one handed pull ups? I've been trying them recently just for abit of fun it's so hard to stop yourself from spinning around most i've managed is 2 and on the third one I hit my head off the bar Does your gym not have a pull up bar or anything? ive never touched lat pulldown since i got no problem with chins.. i rarely bother with wide grip though i never feel it working as good as a chin does. Doubt i could do 20 in a row though.. i always go down slow and fast up works a lot better than doing these really fast like f**k all movement things i see some people doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavyn. Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 (edited) yeah it does. but I can lat more than I weight so I find pull ups kinda easy-ish. can quite happily do 30x5 at a fairly slow pace. I'm pretty sure fast pull ups (up and down) work on something that I can't remember the name of. (plyometrics?) you let yourself drop and catch the weight just before your arms straighten. it hurts like f**k though.works the same as handclap press ups. Edited March 20, 2008 by G4vyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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