The Gym Thread...

[Gavyn.]

What about a powerball for your forearms seems to have helped mine also rowing was good on my forearms too.

[Fish-Finger-er]

post some pics from the start of your cut to the end, let us see some results

i wish i had some, well i did( on the memory card, which i formatted before selling to fatpants). plan was to do it weekly, but it went out the window as soon as i sold the camera(as i dont have pics of me in boxers floating round on my main camera)

i *must* take pics when i come back from college, every sunday till the end of may ( when im back in college again)

would take one now, but its pointless doing it for a week, and last time i was in college for 2 weeks my weight ballooned, so theyll be no progress between now and when i finish college in 3 weeks(i do 2 week blocks at college like 4/5 times a year).

but using trousers for reference, ive took a good inch off me waist in that time.

goal is defined abs for summer. but i guess a lot of it is how much work i put into them/how much fun i have on the weekends etc, as im if out friday and saturday, and eating chineses etc, its not

going to go quite as easy as staying in, on a carb depleted diet, doing cardio and lifting regularly

[munkee]

i woulndt recommend doing weekly.. i would do monthy but never weekly. Nothing will realisticly change and if you happen to go on a binge the day before the pic you arent going to be at all happy and disheartened. Its better to not know where your at and just work hard until the month is up.. that way u can keep guessing and feel like your not seeing change.. just keep pushing and the end result will be good.

Same goes for people who weigh themselves everyday totally pointless considering you could drink a litre of water and put on weight day to day

[Fishy]

How do I make the sick feeling go away?

[Muel]

Doing it on an empty belly then eating streight afterwads for me helps a lot

[I'm hungry]

breath deeply, inhale through your nose, exhale through your mouth.

i got that feeling today about 30 mins ago on deadlifts and nearly fainted. control your breathing and make sure your well hydrated

ps. did you mean sick after your workout or during??

Edited March 13, 2008 by I'm hungry

[Fishy]

Yeah, I just completely powered the weights for a good hour, finishing off with 30 mins on the rowing machine. It's fair to say I will ache like a mother f**ker tomorrow.

I feel really light headed and sick at the moment though.

And after my workout, and towards the end.

Edited March 13, 2008 by Mr Fish

[Token]

I had that before you big gay bear. Just go an make yourself throw up, you'll feel like a buff ting afterwards.

[I'm hungry]

eat dude! carbs and protein

2 eggs with cheese on top and some bacon on the side with bread. maybe some veggies or a massive bowl of pasta with the works

lol at the comment above!!

Edited March 13, 2008 by I'm hungry

[Gavyn.]

you can never make it go away. It means your hitting your maximum which is good. but it's just feeling sick, who cares just keep going it'll really help you cardio wise.

I was training last week when i got speaking to an ex-sbs guy ( he's walked to the pole twice and done everest) he said through out all his training for the sbs he was sick at the end of every session because he was pushed so hard. the only reason he carried on through it was because he hated the oic so much that he wanted to prove him wrong.

the only way you can stop getting it is if you get fitter and fitter so you find it hard to hit your maximum

for every time your sick you've got eat and as for doing it on an empy stomack thats the worst advice i've ever heard

your body burns cards and protien in order to run if you havent eaten anything then you wont have any carbs so your body will be running on pure protien which means everytime you lift a weight your muscles are getting gradually smaller and if your doing cardio you'll be rapidly decreasing the size of your muscles and suffering from extreme exhaustion faster than normal

Edited March 13, 2008 by G4vyn

[I'm hungry]

i think (not 100% sure on this) its all to do with adrenaline.

gives you a rush and makes you feel sick when your peaking

[Fishy]

Yeah, I really pushed myself tonight and shows how unfit I am. I need concentrate more on cardio at the moment than strength.

So feeling sick is normal?

And I've already eaten pasta tonight. About 7-ish. Don't feel hungry just feel sick.

[I'm hungry]

not normal...if i eat enough carbs before and take a good dose of cafein before my workout i can avoid it and push myself to the limit with no sick feeling.

if you train and your body hasnt got enough resources you will feel it.

munch on bananas throughout your workout its really good for you

[Gavyn.]

yes, quite frankly if you've done a cardio session and your not feeling sick then you haven't pushed yourself enough.

it's a great fitness indicator though you go on the rowing machine and give your everything until you start to feel sick then stop and record the time you lasted. then as your sessions progress you should see that time increase dramatically.

[Fishy]

Yeah, I timed myself today, got about 31 mins until I couldn't actually pull it anymore.

On the rowing machine, it doesn't seem to make my legs ache half as much as my shoulders.

[Muel]

ignore me i dunno what i writing

[Urban mammoth]

Yeah, I timed myself today, got about 31 mins until I couldn't actually pull it anymore.

On the rowing machine, it doesn't seem to make my legs ache half as much as my shoulders.

you're not doing it properly if your legs don' ache!

from start position, you should push purely using legs, your arms should be relaxed using no arm power at all, you should feel it tight in your lats/shoulders, then when legs are just about fully extended start a slight lean back and THEN your arms kick in.

technique

[Fishy]

I don't know where I'm going wrong really, maybe I'm not bending far enough down...

[JoNnY__Mc]

Right lads, I haven't really followed this thread much so far, but I have always wanted to be a part of it. I feel like its about time I start looking after my body more and trying to get back into shape.

I'm starting gym on Monday hopefully. I'm 5ft 10ish and 13stone 10 with a waist size of 34". I used to box for a good few years but then had to stop due to college comitments etc, and I have also had a go at using freeweights last summer.

Having said this I have never really known what to do If that makes sense at all and am abit of a noob... So really I don't know what else to put, but if anyone could give me some tips on what I should be doing etc when I start at the gym then that would be greatly appreciated.

Any advice you think I would find useful please post up, this can include your own workout or diet tips.

[Fish-Finger-er]

not going to go much into the diet, as it all varies on your metabolism, what you want from your training and what you can put up with.

as for training, start off with something simple, 3 sets of 10 or 12 reps. would strongly suggest encorporating some of the following into your workout

Bench press

Pull ups

Squats

Bicep curls

Deadlifts.

Tricep dips

none of them should require a machine at all, just free weights and a bar/dipping station. If its your first time using a gym, id strongly suggest an induction of some sorts, or asking someone to show you round the machines, theyll probably give you a load of advice, which id take with a large pinch of salt, then go read up on stuff elsewhere on the net. not saying theres not well trained individuals in the fitness industry, but of about 15 staff at my last 2 gyms, id only really take advice off 3 of them.

trainings not at its best for me, had 2 weeks off at college, a week in work, where ive only managed to get to the gym twice, and ive now got 2 weeks on leave, where i probably wont get to the gym, due to the gym being right next to work, 17 or so miles away. just preparing to hit it hard for 6 weeks solid between 31st march and the 12th may.

[Gavyn.]

Bench press

Pull ups

Squats

Bicep curls

Deadlifts.

Tricep dips

Thats really what my indoor workout comprises of, along with push ups, burpees, skipping and boxing usually although I do a fair few more reps

Then outdoor I try and run 10k atleast once a week and cycle atleast 50k offroad + about the same again on road just getting to the trails.

really the best thing you can do is start off small and slowly build it up. Different things work for different people and it also depends on what you want acheive if you want to be built like a tank or incredibly fit then your workouts will be very different.

I try and keep mine somewhere in the middle because I want to join the army and ultimatly the special forces you've got have exccelent fitness but you can't be built like a twig

[I'm hungry]

it all depends on what your after to be honest, build mass or rip up...

if your after mass keep your reps low, heavy weight 6-8 reps max.

if your after ripping up i'd say go with the above 10-12 reps.

seen as youve done a bit of lifting before, i would say go for a more advanced workout.

id say go for a 4 day split but you can do full body workouts too. (down to personal preferance)

do a quick search on the net for workouts, theres tones of articles and stuff about toning up or building muscle.

googles your best friend till you get yourself sorted with a decent routine.

diets the most important thing, worth searching a bit about diet aswell, eat well even if your after toning up, dont starve yourself to try and lose fat because you will not benefit one bit.

go down have a chat with people around the gym too, pt's and long time lifters.

good luck dude, stay consistent and results will come, guaranteed!

[munkee]

http://216.17.22.84/uploads/CW_Programs.zip

Pick one of those programs.. takes the worry out of planning your own shit. 80% of gym is your diet

Edited March 14, 2008 by Spacemunkee

[JoNnY__Mc]

Cheers for everyones advice lads Very much apreciated

[BenLeacock™]

anyone used a powerball and got any results ...?

powerball yey or nay ?