The Gym Thread...

[zoo]

Right I'm looking to get a pull up/chin up bar to fit on a door frame (not the straight bars...the ones where the ends bend down diagonally for wide grip) now I've only looked in argos because I had the catalogue handy and the only thing I can find is one that attaches to your wall via brackets. Now I am a damn light chap (under 9 stone) but the walls in my house are sh*te beyond belief,has anybody used them and found they just fall or rip off the wall...I doubt with my weight that they will but you never know lol, I'm going to have a look online as I remember seeing somebody (possibly trials_punk 187) posting a link to a site that sells the bars that sort of clip onto the top of your door frame but I don't want to trawl through 20 pages worth. I hope it makes sense,Thanks

[munkee]

I shall fit my bar tonight!

Errm, close grip. Hands close together?

yea wider will be more back / lats closer will be more arms / back /shoulders

[zoo]

Has anybody had experience with pull up bars that you fit into doorways, do they just fall down when you hang off them or anything. It will only be a temporary thing until I either make a wall mounted one at work or buy a wall mounted one (so I aren't fussed about having to tuck my legs up when I go down ). Which are a good make to get etc...

Thanks

[BenLeacock™]

Has anybody had experience with pull up bars that you fit into doorways, do they just fall down when you hang off them or anything. It will only be a temporary thing until I either make a wall mounted one at work or buy a wall mounted one (so I aren't fussed about having to tuck my legs up when I go down ). Which are a good make to get etc...

Thanks

Depends on your door frame etc. I had one abit ago, that had the cups on the wall, and the bar was removable. I got to big and to heavy for it when i pulled up my head hit the roof etc. There not amazing, would be better if you could get one mounted to a roof support or something like that ?

[zoo]

Depends on your door frame etc. I had one abit ago, that had the cups on the wall, and the bar was removable. I got to big and to heavy for it when i pulled up my head hit the roof etc. There not amazing, would be better if you could get one mounted to a roof support or something like that ?

I'll be putting my head down and touching the back of my neck with it so I won't worry about hitting my head on the door frame, was just making sure they don't slip and stuff aslong as you keep them tight etc.

Thanks

Edit: There is a wall mounted one in argos for £34.99 but I aren't sure if it comes with the bar or not...If I have a wall mounted one I'm after a bar that slopes down at the ends for extra wide grip, it doesn't say bar not included or anything like that :\.

Edited January 10, 2008 by zoo

[Muel]

I havn't done my weights since monday, I still have really sore shoulders from my new routine.

Lateral Raises hurt me.

I feel OK this morning, and I finish college at 2:45, so I'll be home for about 4:30 ish. I'll do them then.

[munkee]

you can work through soreness, eat more food and it will go away quicker as well. Just because its sore doesnt mean your f**ked, if its sharp pains then yea u should stop.

[Muel]

you can work through soreness, eat more food and it will go away quicker as well. Just because its sore doesnt mean your f**ked, if its sharp pains then yea u should stop.

Yep.

Well it was yesterday, now it's just a bit sore.

I think I might be pushing my body too much, but ah well, it'll get used to it. I was getting loads of pain in my ligaments, now I have got past that stage I am just getting the proper muscle pain, feels gurd.

I need some lighter weights for lateral raises I think, but that's really gay, I'm using 2.5kg on my dumbbells ffs! I dunno what the bars weigh but it can only be about 1/1.5kg.

[Urban mammoth]

it's meant to hurt!!

a nice ache the day after is great cos you know your breaking your muscles down, although once you get more used to the movements (you say it's a fairly new plan) then you will ache slightly less.

if you do the exercise properly, with a good heavy weight, one where you will be struggling to do the last 2 or 3 reps in your last set then that's good!!

try getting hold of a protein shake for after doing your weights, this will helps your muscles recover and grow.

also if you eat something proteiney (if that's even a word!) before you go to bed your muscles can recover whilst you sleep.

cheers

Dan

[Muel]

it's meant to hurt!!

a nice ache the day after is great cos you know your breaking your muscles down, although once you get more used to the movements (you say it's a fairly new plan) then you will ache slightly less.

if you do the exercise properly, with a good heavy weight, one where you will be struggling to do the last 2 or 3 reps in your last set then that's good!!

try getting hold of a protein shake for after doing your weights, this will helps your muscles recover and grow.

also if you eat something proteiney (if that's even a word!) before you go to bed your muscles can recover whilst you sleep.

cheers

Dan

Yeh I know, but I way over did it on Monday, I think I did my ligaments in a bit or summat, whenever I picked any weights up on Wednesday and Thursday, it was too painful to carry on.

I should be reet for today.

EDIT: I havn't bothered with any whizz yet, but I do eat tuna butties after doing my workout.

Edited January 11, 2008 by El Muelio

[Matthew_Gibson]

I plan on going to the gym to shift a bit of weight, and to build my muscles back up. I used to be more toned, but since doing nothing for the past 6 months I have lost all that.

Can someone do a quick and simple program to stick to? I want upper body sorted! i hate my belly! its all flabby and NEVER use to be! =[

Monday - I work

Tuesday - Nothing

Wednesdays. Rugby training

Thursdays - Driving lesson at 6.15

Fridays - Nothing

Saturday - Work all day

Sundays - work

Only really 3 days i can get to the gym.

[munkee]

I plan on going to the gym to shift a bit of weight, and to build my muscles back up. I used to be more toned, but since doing nothing for the past 6 months I have lost all that.

Can someone do a quick and simple program to stick to? I want upper body sorted! i hate my belly! its all flabby and NEVER use to be! =[

Monday - I work

Tuesday - Nothing

Wednesdays. Rugby training

Thursdays - Driving lesson at 6.15

Fridays - Nothing

Saturday - Work all day

Sundays - work

Only really 3 days i can get to the gym.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.p...mp;d=1146032026

download that file, contains all programs by chad waterbury, he is a f**king hypertrophy legend with more science in his head than any one man would ever need.

I would suggest starting off on ABBH 1 or ABBH2, if you think those are too easy try the lift fast get big. I did pretty much every single one of those programs on that excel sheet whilst i was training and i have to say they are quite something. ABBH 1 got voted best routine two years in a row hence the ABBH 2.. it was such a f**kin simple program when i did it. You would only be in the gym 30mins to 1 hour.. but it was definitely a good way to break in to the gym routine and helped me get a good grounding for harder programs later on.

www.t-nation.com <--- plenty of diet plans on there if you are wanting to do this right if you are a bit on the hefty side you can try the velocity diet.

edit: updated link to more up to date one

Edited January 11, 2008 by Spacemunkee

[Fish-Finger-er]

woot one week of not working out, drinking hard, and eating a load of crap. and im over 14 st 11 now. thats 4lbs of what is probably mostly fat in a week. fookin hoorah for a slow metabolism.

muel, you dont do all of that workout each time do you surely???

but yeah id suggest upping the weight a bit more, if your knocking out 90 curls in a session(spesh if your doing them in that order there) on top of the stuff like rows etc which work your biceps too. then the weight your using is probably too low.

one for chris, as you are the dip king.

any particular benefit/drawback to doing dips with a wide/narrow "grip".

ive always done them with my arms out from my sides about 4 inches or something.but this week being away from home, was improvising on a 2 banister posts a good few inches wider. and found it hurting my shoulders/the top of me pecs way more..

[munkee]

dips

how much i love to hate them

Theres 4 variables.. well 5 if you add weight.

But anyway..

1st.. leaning forward in to the dip will hit your chest more and front of shoulders,

2nd normal / keeping as straight as you can will give your triceps the major hit

3rd narrow grip usually for me i used to find it really killed my triceps until i developed pains in my collar bones, so i assume the weight transfers is going through your triceps in to your upper shoulders/neck area.. eitherway id be more inclined to be careful of narrow grip as there isnt much of a muscle group to give out before you start hurting your bones like i did :/

4th wide grip, definitely hits other regions, much like doing a wide grip pull up compared to regular your body just feels weak as shit the wider you go. Due to your arms being further apart the load path will be more on our chest/shoulders since your triceps will be more inclined.. like / angle.. so more muscle groups further up the order get worked, unlike with narrow | where you got that angle going on.. and its just triceps/shoulders

but yea.. probably a really shit explenation.. but i found best dips were leaning slightly forward + weight belt with like i duno i ended up doing them with +20kg when i was lovin it lol but a bit of weight and leaning forward does work well. I think one of chad waterburys programs has dips on the 1 day you have no form of bench so the leaning forward slightly ensured i was giving it a slight work out, compared to nothing at all. It felt decent though, it got rid of that tight muscle feeling you seem to develop once you really get in to a routine.. kind of like when you are sitting at your pc and find yourself constantly streatching muscles for no reason lol..

god.. i should really get back to the gym.. been over a year since i took it serious and i now weigh sweet f**k all with all the shit thats been going on in my life.. i was bearly 10 stone yesterday.. ive lost like over 1stone in a week and like 2 stone since i was at the gym :|

Edited January 12, 2008 by Spacemunkee

[Muel]

muel, you dont do all of that workout each time do you surely???

Yep.

I am starting to see results already. Well not "see", but my routine is getting much easier, especially on my joints and ligaments.

When I did it yesterday, I made a note to start curling with 15kg on the bellbar instead of 12.5, and bent over rowing is now 27.5kg.

Lateral raises were much better, they really killed when I last did them.

I feel really upto doing it all again today, which surely means, work harder. I've been concentrating on my technique, all my curls had much more of an effect yesterday because I made sure I was absolutely still all the time, rather than my shoulders moving back and forth.

I need some scales, I'll put them on Dad's Tescos list.

EDIT: Bollocks he's just been this morning.

Edited January 12, 2008 by El Muelio

[max-t]

I need some scales, I'll put them on Dad's Tescos list.

EDIT: Bollocks he's just been this morning.

Haha!

I need to start again I've got that crappy virus that has been going round Christmas time and i cant seem to shift it .

[The Duck]

Haha!

I need to start again I've got that crappy virus that has been going round Christmas time and i cant seem to shift it .

Aids max?

Edit: Click

Edited January 12, 2008 by Quackers

[manxrider]

I love turkish get ups, I just tried a few before. They are so tiring, can just do 3 with 10kg lmao.

[Muel]

All my lifts have gone up, so I thought I'd post them.

Warm Up – Skipping Rope 1 minute

Stretch

Bench Press 3x10 22.5kg Barbell

Chest Fly 3x10 7.5kg Dumbbells

Pull Over 3x10 7.5kg Dumbbells

Upright Row 3x10 15kg Barbell

Shoulder Press Behind Neck 3x10 10kg Barbell

Shoulder Press Before Neck 3x10 10kg Barbell

Lateral Raise 3x10 4kg Dumbbells

Crunches 3x10 None

Bent Over Rowing 3x10 30kg Barbell

Sumo Deadlift Back, 3x10 40kg Barbell

Calf Raises 3x25 35kg Barbell

Close Leg Squats 3x10 7.5kg Dumbbells

Squats 3x10 10kg Barbell

Curls 3x10 15kg Barbell

Hammer Curls 3x10 5kg Dumbbells

Overhand Curls 3x10 10kg Barbell

Tricep Kickbacks 3x10 5kg Dumbbells

Stretch Everything

Doesn't copy and paste well from Excel.

EDIT: That's better.

Edited January 18, 2008 by El Muelio

[Josh Greenan!!!!!!!!!!]

Hey lads, just a quick question. Does Creatine really work? because its damn expensive.

[Fish-Finger-er]

woot one week of not working out, drinking hard, and eating a load of crap. and im over 14 st 11 now. thats 4lbs of what is probably mostly fat in a week. fookin hoorah for a slow metabolism.

okay, so ive now had 2 weeks at college, which is eating crap(fried breakfast, tescos pasta pot for mid morning snack, kfcs for lunch,a big tea, and then several pints and a kebab) and worked the middle weekend surviving on take away food.

just weighed myself, 15 stone 5.

with crap eating habits and no gym, ive put on 12 lbs in 2 weeks. thats rather crap to say the least, ive gone out 1-2 notches on me belt too.

still, should be back to the gym tomorrow, and should be pounding the cardio over the next month. wether ill keep it up, or revert to weights and standing around looking at meself in the floor to ceiling mirrors is anyones guess.

[Muel]

okay, so ive now had 2 weeks at college, which is eating crap(fried breakfast, tescos pasta pot for mid morning snack, kfcs for lunch,a big tea, and then several pints and a kebab) and worked the middle weekend surviving on take away food.

just weighed myself, 15 stone 5.

with crap eating habits and no gym, ive put on 12 lbs in 2 weeks. thats rather crap to say the least, ive gone out 1-2 notches on me belt too.

still, should be back to the gym tomorrow, and should be pounding the cardio over the next month. wether ill keep it up, or revert to weights and standing around looking at meself in the floor to ceiling mirrors is anyones guess.

I'm hoping to do more cardio, it's an arse to get it fitted into you routine, but when it's in it sort of sticks.

Or at least I hope it will.

I'm going for my induction at the gym at college on Wednesday, apparently the guy works you really hard.

My plan is to go after work on Monday and Wednesday and use the cardio type machines, and on Friday morning.

The only problem is I do my weights on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I could change them and do them Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday, but then I'll end up sore on Sunday and riding will hurt.

I think I'm just going to cram as much cardo gym stuff in, my body fat must be quit high, and I am aiming to get my six pack to come out from beneath it's flabby sheath.

Whats your experience with suppliments? I am eating tuna at every avialable appourtunity, but in a lot of stuff I have downloaded, it says 40g of protien straight after you train. Well a tin of tuna has 25g, and I use half a tin. So maybe I should go for using some form of supplement? The site I use all the time reckons Whey Protien is the dogs bollocks, but I don't know where to get it from.

[Fish-Finger-er]

Whats your experience with suppliments? I am eating tuna at every avialable appourtunity, but in a lot of stuff I have downloaded, it says 40g of protien straight after you train. Well a tin of tuna has 25g, and I use half a tin. So maybe I should go for using some form of supplement? The site I use all the time reckons Whey Protien is the dogs bollocks, but I don't know where to get it from.

i use whey, i tried a short creatine cycle, but it didnt seem to make much difference.

i recommend nutrisport 90+ whey isolate. get it from ebay, jm-nutrition is a fairly trusted seller, and ive had no problems ordering 10 or so lots of him. however i ordered 10kg off supreme supplements/ahl-online, and when dhl lost it, he didnt want to know, so avoid him if possible.

other good stuff is reflex, or optimum nutrition, avoid like the plague the cheap carb laden stuff, unless u want to seriously bulk up/have an uber fast metabolism,and maximuscle etc is all overpriced ta feck.

[Muel]

i use whey, i tried a short creatine cycle, but it didnt seem to make much difference.

i recommend nutrisport 90+ whey isolate. get it from ebay, jm-nutrition is a fairly trusted seller, and ive had no problems ordering 10 or so lots of him. however i ordered 10kg off supreme supplements/ahl-online, and when dhl lost it, he didnt want to know, so avoid him if possible.

other good stuff is reflex, or optimum nutrition, avoid like the plague the cheap carb laden stuff, unless u want to seriously bulk up/have an uber fast metabolism,and maximuscle etc is all overpriced ta feck.

I'd rather be strong and still keep as light as possible, than be huge but useless on a bike.

I'll have a look at it, for the moment I'm amazed at the difference in my muscle size already, my arms are 12" round my biceps, which is tiny really, but they were 9/10 when I started just before new year.

EDIT: I can't afford it, I know it wrks out at 50p a serving, but I have no money atm. Ah well, lot's of tuna to eat up. I may buy some when I've been doing it longer.

Edited January 18, 2008 by El Muelio

[I'm hungry]

Optimum Nutrition Gold Standard Whey is what you need.

Has 4g of glutamine and BCAA's and is by far the best selling whey out there. Buy off ebay ( Elite Supplements ).

I'd also recommend creatine because it will make a difference in the long run...

Mix whey and creatine ( 2 scoops of whey + 10g creatine monohydrate ) STRAIGHT AFTER your workout.

Possibly the best thing you could put in your body after a hard workout.

Gav