Boumsong Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 What would it be safe to go up to without a belt? This gym only has a Smith Machine (yeah?) for squats at the minute. No free weight rack. They have free weights/barbells/dumbells just no frame to go with it all.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muel Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Where did you get the belt? I need one! Matty paid £40 for his but don't really want to be spending that much, he said that was cheap too haha £20 on ebay, thought it was worth a shot. Seems like really good quality to me, will try it out tomorrow. Not too happy that I ordered large and can only just get it on though haha. Really need to lose some fat over the summer. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200796671005 What would it be safe to go up to without a belt? This gym only has a Smith Machine (yeah?) for squats at the minute. No free weight rack. They have free weights/barbells/dumbells just no frame to go with it all.. Depends entirely on the individual to be honest, but as a guideline if you're going for anything over 80% of what you can do for 1 rep then you should be belted really, if you've been lifting for a while and you're pushing good numbers. I've deadlifted 160 and squatted 120, and just felt that the weights were starting to get heavy enough to overpower my core. When you're not able to keep your core tight and your back straight any more, a belt will help support you. Never actually used one though so don't quote me on anything just yet. No squat rack is just wrong lol. I'd seriously move gym, I hate smith machines. I injured my shoulder in one of those b*****d things. The force the bar through a path, rather than you controlling the bar through a more natural path. Edited April 14, 2015 by Muel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinfor Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) If youre not actually having problems doing squats or deads, I wouldnt bother with a belt. 6 years of lifting and not needed a belt yet. Oh yeah avoid the smith as much as you can. Edited April 14, 2015 by Kevinfor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 +1 for not using smith machine! Only use it for calves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted April 14, 2015 Report Share Posted April 14, 2015 I use a belt for my heaviest lifts of the day on deadlift and squat. In other news I hit 135kg for 3 today, so that's 3 reps of what was my one rep best a month or so ago. Also had a comment about my depth being on point to, which is nice. Going for 140kg next time around. That would make me happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boumsong Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 It is only £15 a month and 3 minutes from home which was the initial appeal. I might see if I can be greedy and set the squats up on 2 benches and see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Smith machine is good for hack squats, as for a belt http://m.myprotein.com/elysium.search?search=Belt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I use the cheaper of the MP belts, it's pretty good. Saying that, I'm 82kg, 6 foot, and I have to use it on the smallest loops, so if you're smaller than that you might be out of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 I use the cheaper of the MP belts, it's pretty good. Saying that, I'm 82kg, 6 foot, and I have to use it on the smallest loops, so if you're smaller than that you might be out of luck. f**k ) might have to make my own holes! What amino acids are people taking? Link please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/bcaa/10529280.html Blue Rasberry doesn't taste like shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Standard BCAA tablets from myprotein, think it may be BCAA+ actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann2707 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Cheers guys. Quite happy as I pushed squats to 5 x 6 of 100kg tonight. Think I could definitely go more too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Orange flavoured iBCAA from myprotein, just like having orange cordial. Otherwise I have the tablets but there a pain to swallow as they're f**king massive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMatt Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Orange flavoured iBCAA from myprotein, just like having orange cordial. Otherwise I have the tablets but there a pain to swallow as they're f**king massive! Could you explain the benefits of them please? Do you actually notice them or whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Essentially the building blocks of what muscle is made from, help you recover quicker and ache less because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Yup, I find the iBCAA's better as they dissolve in water rather than having to drink a load of grit and actually taste alright. Also helpful before you do cardio to prevent your body from burning muscle for fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMatt Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Oh neat, thanks guy's I'll order some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isitafox Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 f**k me, brought my 16kg kettlebell to work today for a session as it's always quiet in here and I can't believe the difference not having any pre-workout has made. Struggling so much compared to normal, might have to sneak a gym sesh in tomorrow to make up for this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Oh neat, thanks guy's I'll order some No matt don't!!!!!!!!!! BCAA is a big pile of shit (if you're not a vegetarian). You already get all the aminos from eating meat and protein stuff during the day, spend your money on orange juice instead, would work just as good haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williams Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Read up a bit on the supplement industry before posting their product information here.. Trust me, it's built up of lies and bullshit. There's only 3 supplements I would recommend, and that actually works: Protein powder, basically just easy protein if your diet doesn't cover your "protein needs". Creatine, this does work, helps me a lot in the gym. I feel stronger and have more energy to push a few more reps. Pre workout - this scary thing with a ingredient list longer than the bible, will make you feel like you've just had 70 energy drinks, and does contain some good things which will make you push out a few more reps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMatt Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 No matt don't!!!!!!!!!! BCAA is a big pile of shit (if you're not a vegetarian). You already get all the aminos from eating meat and protein stuff during the day, spend your money on orange juice instead, would work just as good haha I spend about £15 a week on OJ. the £2.70 900ml good shit (two for £3.50) and put some creatine in there which I find dissolves nicely . not ordered the BCAA's but I did some research and some people say it works and other call it BS, don't think I will be getting any so don't you worry your little meat balls x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukasMcNeal Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 I can personally say it reduces DOMS so must be doing something right, there's quite a lot of research into it too. Obviously having a good diet is key but these do help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Read up a bit on the supplement industry before posting their product information here.. Trust me, it's built up of lies and bullshit. There's only 3 supplements I would recommend, and that actually works: Protein powder, basically just easy protein if your diet doesn't cover your "protein needs". Creatine, this does work, helps me a lot in the gym. I feel stronger and have more energy to push a few more reps. Pre workout - this scary thing with a ingredient list longer than the bible, will make you feel like you've just had 70 energy drinks, and does contain some good things which will make you push out a few more reps Don't want to sound rude but have you 'Read up a bit on the supplement industry before posting their product information here.. ' because id say BCAA are rather important and one of the few actually proven supplements! They defiantly do make a difference if you take them or not. Pre-work outs are bullshit too, all those added ingredients are fairy dusted meaning there is so little it will not actually give a benefit other than they can write it on the ingredient list! You would be best off with a cup of coffee and a banana! If you wanted a good pre-work out there are some real good ones out there but do your research as they are a huge placebo most of the time, pre-Jym is a good one! Pre-Workout = Caffiene and bulking powder. Edited April 20, 2015 by bike_dummie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike_dummie Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Read these when picking supplements especially a pre-work out in particular http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/state-of-the-art-supplement-manufacturing-what-you-need-to-know.html http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/does-your-pre-workout-supplement-suck.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrialsIsHard Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Did some heavy bench press today to try to gauge where my 1RM is, managed 85kg which I'm pretty happy about seeing as I only weigh 70.4kg Supplements wise I take multivitamins, fish oil, creatine and whey isolate. Personally I don't think I would take any more than that, except maybe a pre-workout if oranges stop working their magic. (which they won't because oranges are the best). I think a pre-workout which gives a placebo effect is probably the best pre-workout there is, so much of bodybuilding is in your head that if you can get fired up without actually filling your body with random stimulants and general poison you're onto a winner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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