flipkickbs Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 I am hopefully soon to buy a chris king rear hub (Y) . But i have heard about kings being able to skip and make a full freehub rotation before re-engaging, how true is this? Asking because i don't want to die (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 A well maintained/ looked after king should never skip, or if it does it is rare. Just make sure you take the hub apart every 2-4 months and give the freehub splines a good clean with a toothbrush and put some cross country chain lube or something similar in the splines and it should be fine. Cheers, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobnobs Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 If the king does skip, yes it wont engage again until the cranks stop turning. As above, keep it well maintained, and it will be gravy, they have the most efficient and strongest method of engagement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Quigley Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 my king skips on the odd occasion, only track standing though and even then it engages again almost straight away, I've had no problems with it not engaging fully though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarrick Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 I have heard that it can tend to do this in the break in period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick_spider Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 A full rotation skip will occur if there is dirt or sticky grease on the helical splines. Pretty simple really. If it skips, there's a problem. In my experience, the bed in period is a load of bollocks too. Mine skipped when I got it and after King 'fixed' it. It was changing the king grease on the helical splines to finish line wet lube that made the difference. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 I have heard that it can tend to do this in the break in period Most "good" hubs do (Y) lol I nearly had a tantrum when my profile wouldn't engage at all. Then I was told, and realised my chain was slack (Y) Just take it easy when you get it, and it should be fine (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Limburn Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 my king skips on the odd occasion, only track standing though and even then it engages again almost straight away, I've had no problems with it not engaging fully though. same here, ive only ever had small skips, ususally ones that you can hear but not feel! never had a full rotation though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nb88 Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 My king skips very occasionally, seems to be when im just riding along fast and not putting much pressure on the hub. Seems to just do small skips and isnt usuallu very loud. I run 10w30 motor oil in mine. In the chris king manual it says you can run this and it seems to be doing OK, but ive been told by tarty to use something less viscous in the cold (e.g. 10w20). I think the problem with king grease is when its cold it gets a lot thicker and just makes a gunge in the hub...making it skip and generally be shite. I service mine about once a month aswell, and make sure you keep it tight (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Motivator Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Mine has only skipped badly once, and that resulted in me flying off a picnic bench and face planting the floor. It was brand new then thought (Y) Anyway, if you look after it it's fine. I havn't serviced mine for about 3 months now and it hasn't skipped for a good 3 months either. Sammmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 (edited) same here, ive only ever had small skips, ususally ones that you can hear but not feel! never had a full rotation though. Pip, do you remember georges at the bottom of the steps at the wall, probably the scariest thing i've seen him do. Edited October 29, 2005 by ash-kennard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Limburn Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Pip, do you remember georges at the bottom of the steps at the wall, probably the scariest thing i've seen him do. yes it did a very big skip then, but has not done so since. my acs skip was worse lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipkickbs Posted October 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 So regular service will prevent skipping? whats the bedding in time of king hubs like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Theoretically hundreds of miles of XC (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipkickbs Posted October 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Theoretically hundreds of miles of XC (Y) Ask anyone, i'm elite, 6 1/2 miles, no seat. 22-18, No problem. Do it all the time nowadays, lol. So nothing serious until its been running a while then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-A Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Dont forget that most of your XC is done at 2am (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipkickbs Posted October 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Dont forget that most of your XC is done at 2am (Y) Lol, thats elite (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron_trials _247 Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 if you want to ask someone about aking slipping ask fletch massive water gap and like 9ft drop ish DAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotchDave Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 It's no myth, but send the hub to Tart he'll take it apart, whip all the pish out and loob it up. Top job. (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Tom Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Ian if i was you i would wait for the new hope trial hub, it's has 48 engagements which is quite a lot off Chris King but the hope hub has like 3 or 4 pawls which i think are more reliable. Kings are good if they are serviced loads but it's a lot of hassle, when the new hope hub will be available soon (Y)get the hope hub Ian and plus it's a lot cheaper. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishayton Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Ian if i was you i would wait for the new hope trial hub, it's has 48 engagements which is quite a lot off Chris King but the hope hub has like 3 or 4 pawls which i think are more reliable. Kings are good if they are serviced loads but it's a lot of hassle, when the new hope hub will be available soon (Y)get the hope hub Ian and plus it's a lot cheaper. Cheers, Tom Its suprisingly easy to do actually, easyier than servicing a Hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Drewery Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 I have been running a rear king classic for three or four months now and I am very impressed. I have had minor skips from just riding along, only small though then it engages straight away again. I have only serviced mine about three times, using wd40 (its all I have got). I bought mine second hand off ebay as a full wheel, so I didnt have to bed it in. If you do get one ride it around a lot and do a few little trials moves here and there, nothing that stresses your hub too much. It should bed in nicely then and give you years of quick engaging loveliness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_seamons Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Ian if i was you i would wait for the new hope trial hub, it's has 48 engagements which is quite a lot off Chris King but the hope hub has like 3 or 4 pawls which i think are more reliable. Kings are good if they are serviced loads but it's a lot of hassle, when the new hope hub will be available soon (Y)get the hope hub Ian and plus it's a lot cheaper. Cheers, Tom The RingDrive mechanism Kings use is much more efficient and reliable than any other engaging technique, simply to the way it works. The harder the force put into engaging, the stronger it will bite, unlike a rachet based system, where too hard a force, and the system could potentially fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Clark Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 Surely the ringdrive system means a King has 72 effective pawls anyway? I've had mine for about half a year now I think, and it's been perfect, never skipped and I haven't touched it except tightening it at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted October 30, 2005 Report Share Posted October 30, 2005 So regular service will prevent skipping? whats the bedding in time of king hubs like? 60 hours use king hub has effevtively 72 pawls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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