random Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Okay the deal is * Pete's got itchy feet again * Really big and badly * Got spear time on my hands * But no ideas where to begin * Dengs already f**ked it up for me I wana desgin a new frame. I can't be assed withthe norm, 3 triangle desgin and what not or i just have no idea how to do. Problem is there are so many frame out there now it's hard to do you own...so only option i se eit is take this form that and that and that and mix and match. PIC n MIX is what the frame could be called. So yeah all i want is for you guys and gals to say what bits off other bikes you'd have ie/example:- Curtis headtube, Echo Control dropouts, Leeson BB, Coust downtube You get what i mean, main features of the frame are the important part. So let me know what you think of what you want and why. Even if you can do some random picture work in Photoshop or a even a paint drawing of an idea. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Your going to weld a leeson bb and a curtis headtube, steel to aluminum? I don't think its a good idea mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random Posted October 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 You thick or just plain stupied?? bith! I said as an ex of the style of them parts. Not to say the fact that them two are the best Uk Steal frame builders. I never said what materials it could be CF or Ti...maybe Lexan even (i wish) Fact you can't weld ether togther, but you can bond them chemicly wihc inturn is as strong as welding them. So :P Ash!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Kennard Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 sorry, everyones so bitchy today, I was only trying to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teaming Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Hows about: XTP headtube Marc Vinco down tube and top tube design Zoo pitbull 04 design BB maybe have mod type chainstay for singlespeed usage?? no deraileur? My paint program is down at the moment, so can't really draw picture. But if you can get general idea I think it would look rather nice. Whether It'd work is another story..... :D Jackery :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan6061 Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Super glue :D :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random Posted October 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Hows about: XTP headtube Marc Vinco down tube and top tube design Zoo pitbull 04 design BB maybe have mod type chainstay for singlespeed usage?? no deraileur? My paint program is down at the moment, so can't really draw picture. But if you can get general idea I think it would look rather nice. Whether It'd work is another story..... :P Jackery :P f**k a duck!!!!!!!!!! :D that boy i love. Don't let Deng hassle you cos he'll eat you for lunch and spit you bones out and then sell them on after wards. The mod type of chainsatys do you mean shape?? So where talking horizontal dropouts er?? Umm got to be fixed rear wheel so you have set rear end length...sure soemthing crazy could be made to do tension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbra Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Super glue :P :P OR!! chew loads of bubble gum and stick it all together with that :D :lol: lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siders77 Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Okay the deal is * Pete's got itchy feet again * Really big and badly You best get that looked at Pete, it could be something serious. :P :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random Posted October 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 (edited) Something called C103 (no not the death metal club in Plymouth) it's a meatl welding agent but a chemical one, you paint both surface with it leave then bond and aply some heat and presure of a clmaping force and it bonds them togther and take a lot of force to fail. Umm could be eh, Doc on Monday it is. Edited October 28, 2005 by random Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaRtZ Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 XTP head tube Python "rear triangle" Anything else is a bonus really. I think just those two on their own would be smartiau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random Posted October 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Okay it's getitng a little off track. i should say it has to be for a stock frame only and vertical dropouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teaming Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 The mod type of chainsatys do you mean shape?? So where talking horizontal dropouts er?? Umm got to be fixed rear wheel so you have set rear end length...sure soemthing crazy could be made to do tension I think something crazy would be awesome for tensioning!! :P I think a nice mod end shape style would be good.......maybe not with horizontal drop outs though :P A bit of a bb rise to make it really feel like a mod. A stock-mod :P A stock with all the rear end features of a mod!!!. Ummmm.......I think that the rear plates that hold the wheel (the part where the bolts are screwed onto) could maybe in the shape of a python 05 as they look nice and dandy, the design of the rear plate could maybe also give you a similar idea for the tensioner :lol: matching Jackery :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Elding Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Xtp headtube. Control BB shell Control integrated booster thing(Without the big ''E'' because deng would eat you alive). Curvy toptube for more standover. +20 BB rise max! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teaming Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Oooooooo hows bout this.....for stock Hi-fi headtube Monty x-lite 06 down tube and top tube (the curvy design) zoo pitbull 04 design bb built in brake booster in a web sort of design that curves around back tyre zoo pitbull chainstays +20 bb rise :P Jackery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich J Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 not been into trials long so i dont really know what is on the market but how about a down tube that curves up so you get maximum clearence. dont really know if this idea would work i was just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trialsking 55 Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 +100 bb :P the koxx headtube design and rear pythong triangle souns good :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random Posted October 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Okay so this is what's so far and is set in stone Materials – T45, EN16T, HR4, 4130 (British Steal & Cromloy) Weld – Fillet brazed ^set in stone not changing All seam to favor a bb of 20mm, Deng does 55/60mm and Koxx are just as the name says @ 80mm. So were going for +30mmbb?? What about head angles?? 71* seams a good bet 20 SWG, 0.914mm tubing will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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