TheMunn Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Cross post from OTN, found a tensile freewheel on there, not seen it before, looks good though, wanted to know who would be stocking them and also if they have any information on when and how much ect. ? OTN link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siders77 Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 *Waits for Onzabooymarks post* He's testing one right now. Price should be around £30. Best to wait for Marks reply because he knows more about them than me. (Y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Booth Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 *Waits for Onzabooymarks post* Best to wait for Marks reply because he knows more about them than me. (Y) That post on OTN is onzaboymark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Cook Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Sorry if i have missed it but whats the EP points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisRider Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 60 ep wasnt it? anywho definately looks like ill get a few of them, be well nice on my jump bike and on my 24 project ^_^ already got a few enos on other bikes, feel lush <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Non sealed bearings? <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Be cool, Mr. JT. The only time that's a problem is if you have to strip it down, and the joy of open bearing freewheels is that if you need to relube them, you can flush them through without stripping them. How delightful. When I was initially told on the phone they were open bearing, I was a bit sceptical 'cos I knew how shite ACS Claws felt, and how good my Eno felt. However, the Tensile's driveshell is as stable as the Enos, easily. In fact, it feels just as solid as the Eno does. Like I *think* I said in that post on OTN, there's no discernible difference between the 2 freewheels. 12 engagement points doesn't amount to much, so it's very similar. The only plain difference is the sound; the Tensile is more 'open' than the Eno in that there's not sealed bearings one side and a mud seal the other, so you can really hear every one of those pawls clicking into place. It's a really, really good freewheel. Tart told me that he had a feeling they were gonna be £30 when they come out, and if they do, I really can't imagine why anyone would ever buy an ACS Claw (especially the Monty-branded ACS Claws...) instead. £20 more for a vastly, vastly superior freewheel. They really are that good. I've already asked if I can buy my test one after they're released simply because it's as good as an Eno, but this one's a lot newer than mine. According to Supercycles, you'll be able to buy spares and the like from them too, so it should be peachy, really. www.supercycles.co.uk are obviously going to be the main distributor. I'd imagine that if a shop stocks Tensile cranks it should therefore be able to stock the Tensile freewheel as they'll have an account with SC, but I can guarantee Tartybikes and Supercycles will be the first places to be selling them. Buy buy buy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomN Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Am liking the Tensile freewheel very much sounds the dogs dangles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMunn Posted October 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 But when will I be able to buy one ?! (God bless having a trade account with supercycles, <_< ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 (edited) btw, ACS have got the lockring screwing on the correct way. if they have a conventional thread on there and it comes loose then your f**ked. but otherwise it looks good Edited October 27, 2005 by WILL ARNOLD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 The ACS's loosen themselves super easily, hence the Tensile being threaded the opposite way to an ACS. Therefore, it won't come loose - and indeed hasn't at all on mine, unlike my old ACS which took about 2 minutes to become all flappy 'n' shite. The BB interface works super well too. The freewheel itself is a fraction wider than an ACS with no tabs, but you'll still be able to take it off without heinously buggering up your freewheel. Shite pictures due to the whole shiny object/dark room problem <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 think about the way a freewheel spins when ur coasting, then think about the way it would loosen, see my point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMunn Posted October 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 But when will we be able to buy them ?! <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 think about the way a freewheel spins when ur coasting, then think about the way it would loosen, see my point? Will, seriously <_< ACS Claws loosen. All the time. That's why so many die. That's why I think there's still a thread in the FAQ saying how to weld them/glue them/break them so they never open again. The Tensile one is threaded the other way. Think about it. The ACS goes in one direction. It loosens all the time. The Tensile goes the other direction. It's stayed tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMunn Posted October 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Can you answer my question please ? <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Will, seriously <_< ACS Claws loosen. All the time. That's why so many die. That's why I think there's still a thread in the FAQ saying how to weld them/glue them/break them so they never open again. The Tensile one is threaded the other way. Think about it. The ACS goes in one direction. It loosens all the time. The Tensile goes the other direction. It's stayed tight. that is probarbly to do with the amount/thickness of spacers acs provide, they dont provide enough. if you put a few more in, then it wont come loose. the reason tensiles dont come loose is because they have got the spacing correct. i'll do a drawing if you want me to explain ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Can you answer my question please ? <_< Erm, no, 'cos there's no set date. I think they're hoping to release them sooner rather than later (think: within 2 months?), mainly 'cos they're heckling me for reports about how it's working and so on. It's been tested extensively by Ben Slinger and Ryan, so it's almost good to go, basically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 marks right <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 marks right <_< I'm glad I didn't have to go to the trouble of stripping my Eno to show you too ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT! Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 Whoever thought of putting the BB tool design on there get a big kiss on the lips from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark W Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 The man on the right is your target, JT!. Mike rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BikeDotStuffAtOnzaDotCom Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 (edited) think about the way a freewheel spins when ur coasting, then think about the way it would loosen, see my point? You need to think about what would happen if the lockring were prevented from moving (if it stayed with the chain) - would it unscrew or tighten with the movement of the bike. I think: ON A BMX - You're pelting down a hill, the chain and teeth on freewheel stay where they are, the lockring, if it made contact with the outer part of the freewheel, would be forced anticlockwise. So the lockring has an anticlockwise thread and is tightened by such contact. ON A FRONT FREEWHEEL ARRANGEMENT: Especially with the chain tight, the bit with the teeth on comes into contact with the lockring and unscrews it because it's the opposite way round to the BMX The Tensile freewheel will be available in front and rear versions. Difference as discussed. EDIT: i'll do a drawing if you want me to explain ^_^ Go on, then. <_< Edited October 28, 2005 by BikeDotStuffAtOnzaDotCom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josephine Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 think about the way a freewheel spins when ur coasting, then think about the way it would loosen, see my point? Coasting put's naff all force through freewheels, it actually tightens them minutely, it's the force of some fat b*****d trials rider kicking down on the pedal that loosens it I would think, due to shock loading? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poopipe Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Coasting put's naff all force through freewheels, it actually tightens them minutely, it's the force of some fat b*****d trials rider kicking down on the pedal that loosens it I would think, due to shock loading? Joe on a rear freewheel thats true - the direction it turns would tighten the lockring a front freewheel spins the opposite way so it gets loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Arnold Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 You need to think about what would happen if the lockring were prevented from moving (if it stayed with the chain) - would it unscrew or tighten with the movement of the bike. I think: ON A BMX - You're pelting down a hill, the chain and teeth on freewheel stay where they are, the lockring, if it made contact with the outer part of the freewheel, would be forced anticlockwise. So the lockring has an anticlockwise thread and is tightened by such contact. ON A FRONT FREEWHEEL ARRANGEMENT: Especially with the chain tight, the bit with the teeth on comes into contact with the lockring and unscrews it because it's the opposite way round to the BMX The Tensile freewheel will be available in front and rear versions. Difference as discussed. EDIT: Go on, then. ^_^ <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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