Looking For A New Mobo, Processor And Ram.

[Siders77]

Hey.

I'm after a new Motherboard, Prosessor and RAM. I found a good one on Komplett for £210 but I can't seem to find it anymore. ;)

So yeah. I'm after 1GB of RAM, and AMD Processor (May consider Intel?) and a Decent Motherboard with an AGP GFX Card slot. It needs to be for IDE hard drives too if that makes any difference?

Ideally I'm looking to pay about £250.

Thanks. ;)

[Koxx_TryAll]

Hey.

I'm after a new Motherboard, Prosessor and RAM. I found a good one on Komplett for £210 but I can't seem to find it anymore. ;)

So yeah. I'm after 1GB of RAM, and AMD Processor (May consider Intel?) and a Decent Motherboard with an AGP GFX Card slot. It needs to be for IDE hard drives too if that makes any difference?

Ideally I'm looking to pay about £250.

Thanks. ;)

Aright mate.

Depending on what you want the machine for I.e games etc. or just a general use pc is what determines on socket you get. For games i'd go for a socket 939, but if you want a normal office pc you want something like a socket A, as there quite cheap and still around. Now for processor go for amd as they are slightly better then intel. Now ram id go for either kingston or crucial make sure you check the speed of the ram before buying, Now the motherboard that your planning to get, if i was you id check to see if it would take up to 2gb of ram as thats what there going up to now. For a graphics card make sure the motherboard has a decent agp slot i.e 8x or something. or you could beat the agp slot by making sure your Motherboard has a pci express slot. For hdds there moving to Sata cables so id try and get one of them.

Anyway hope this all helps.

Nick

[Siders77]

I use my computer mainly for Photoshop, Dreamweaver, a bit of video editing, MSN and browsing the internet.

I only want AGP and IDE because I have those in my current computer and I don't fancy spending out loads more money when I've only just got a new Hard Drive.

In my PC now I have an AMD Sempron Processor and 512MB of Crucial RAM. It's quite slow so that's why I'm wanting to upgrade. ;)

[Tomm]

Want a Shuttle?

[Siders77]

Do you have one? Or where can I get one from?

[Tomm]

Do you have one? Or where can I get one from?

Might be selling mine. It's an Athlon 64 3200+, 1Gb Ram, 9800Pro. Probably sell without a hard drive which I want to keep. But I'd probably want a bit more than £250.

[Fishwog]

I use my computer mainly for Photoshop, Dreamweaver, a bit of video editing, MSN and browsing the internet.

Now everything there is cool for a pretty standard spec. computer..... until you say video editing...... this bumps the demands of all of your computer, especially CPU and GFX. Unless, of course you only do it a little bit, and at a basic level?

Might be selling mine. It's an Athlon 64 3200+, 1Gb Ram, 9800Pro. Probably sell without a hard drive which I want to keep. But I'd probably want a bit more than £250.

How much you looking at? (Y)

[Siders77]

Oh right. Okay. Don't worry about it then. (Y)

I'm looking at getting this-

Now everything there is cool for a pretty standard spec. computer..... until you say video editing...... this bumps the demands of all of your computer, especially CPU and GFX. Unless, of course you only do it a little bit, and at a basic level?

Yeah, it's just a little bit. I've only made 2/3 videos in the last few months so it's nothing major. :)

[stubert]

I personally have noticed no difference in the skt939 over the 754 for computing unless you are looking to overclock and stress your system.

I use a skt754 AMD 3400 64bit, and its the best processor ive ever used, over intel 3.2ghzs.

I currently have it running at 2.52ghz, and its stable and has never crashed.

One of these will cost you about £110

Ram of choice is Kingmax PC4000 Hardcore ram from overclock.co.uk. Its fast as hell and fairly resonable. It was given brilliant reviews by Custom PC a few months back, a gig of this is about £90

The best skt754 motherboard on the market is the DFI LanParty UT nF3 250Gb, comes in at £70. Its EXTREMELY stable, and has everything you need, AGP, and a very nice 8.1 on-board audio

id suggest this set up to anybody, and it will last you a good few years

[Fishwog]

Yup, the spec sounds fine too me, you might want to consult someone else, like Tomm perhaps? And ask about opinions on the particular hardware at hand, because i am now a lot out of date on hardware nowadays (Y)

[Siders77]

That was recomended to me by Danny because he used one of those MOBO's the other day or something. He said it seemed fine. (Y)

Edited October 26, 2005 by Siders77

[Fishwog]

I personally have noticed no difference in the skt939 over the 754 for computing unless you are looking to overclock and stress your system.

There were never meant to be any big differences in socket 754 and 939, it's just general benchmarks produced better results in customisation of the hardware's capability for 939, and they didn't want the confusion of having two different breeds of motherboard out, hence why 939 is staying and why 754 is rather quickly dying out.

[Tomm]

hence why 939 is staying and why 754 is rather quickly dying out.

Apparently not. Apparently 939 is going to be phased out fairly soon for another platform, whereas 754 will remain the "budget" option for some time to come. But you can still get 3700+ on 754 I think, that's hardly slow.

[Fishwog]

Apparently not. Apparently 939 is going to be phased out fairly soon for another platform, whereas 754 will remain the "budget" option for some time to come. But you can still get 3700+ on 754 I think, that's hardly slow.

See, Tomm knows best for PC (Y)

Sounds a better idea though, its the first thing 99% of people say when they want to buy a computer: " I only want to spend 'this' much"

[Siders77]

So you're saying that 754 is the best to go with?

[Tomm]

I wouldn't worry either way to be honest. Seeing as you will probably upgrade the whole computer (not just the CPU) next time around, it won't make a bit of difference whether 754 is better than 939. I would probably get a 939 system to be honest, because you pay extra for 754 (Athlon*) CPUs because they are not being made any more I think. But if you get a good deal on a 754 system, go for that. Not much in it.

*They are still making Semprons in s754 flavours.

[Siders77]

Oh right. Okay.

I'll just stick with that up there then^^^ Thanks (Y)

Edited October 26, 2005 by Siders77

[aaron_trials _247]

dont go for cheap ram

what you pay for is what you get

"value"

go for crucial

DAN

[spode@thinkbikes]

I personally have noticed no difference in the skt939 over the 754 for computing unless you are looking to overclock and stress your system.

I use a skt754 AMD 3400 64bit, and its the best processor ive ever used, over intel 3.2ghzs.

I currently have it running at 2.52ghz, and its stable and has never crashed.

One of these will cost you about £110

Ram of choice is Kingmax PC4000 Hardcore ram from overclock.co.uk. Its fast as hell and fairly resonable. It was given brilliant reviews by Custom PC a few months back, a gig of this is about £90

The best skt754 motherboard on the market is the DFI LanParty UT nF3 250Gb, comes in at £70. Its EXTREMELY stable, and has everything you need, AGP, and a very nice 8.1 on-board audio

id suggest this set up to anybody, and it will last you a good few years

Heh.

The difference between Socket 754 and Socket 939, is that 939 supports Dual Channel memory (hence the need for extra pins). It also supports the X2 and FX processors. Socket 754 only supports Athlon 64 and Sempron. So the real choice is made by what processor you go for, not the effeciency of the platform.

Socket 754 used to be only AGP, as nobody was making PCI-E boards for them. But now Nforce4 boards are being made for Socket 754, for PCI-E support and in some cases SLI.

The Socket 754 Semprons (not the Socket A Variety) are superbly cheap and overclock like hell. The Sempron we have in our test labs clocks up from 2ghz to 2.75 on air and almost all the Nforce 4 boards we've tested can do that. You'll also notice next to no difference between Semprons and Athlon 64s, bar the lack of 64-bit support (except in the 64-bit Semprons of course...).

Considering you don't play games, you don't really NEED PCI-Express as you will of course need a new graphics card, but it is nice future protection. MSI do a cheap Socket 754 board which has an AGP and PCI-E slot. You could therefore use your current graphics card and you have the option to stick a PCI-E card in later. You could could even go for onboard graphics, but I'm not sure there are many Socket 754 boards than use the ATI Express Chipset yet.

As far as memory, sure you could go with what stubert is recommending, but you won't notice the difference. Get cheap memory, but not unbranded. The Corsair Value range or the Kingston value range are real winners. They won't hinder you're overclock as you can ran your memory asynchrounsly on the Athlon 64. Besides, Athlon 64 doesn't seem to get effected by memory bandwidth too much for some reason..

If you ARE serious about video encoding, you would actually be better off with an Intel chip. But they are a lot more money and I hate the platforms..

I hope this helps.

Spode, Custom PC Magazine (Y)